Team Fortress Wiki:Weapon Demonstration/Archive 58

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Grappling Hook

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 7:02 PM 8/26/2016 (PDT)

(I mean, if nothing else, it is able to kill players.) Dogman15 (talk) 02:26, 24 December 2014 (PST)

I don't know, but, Grappling Hook is having several changes each update, so every time an update releases, it would be need to re-made the entire video. In my opinion, I would wait until Mannpower to release it completely before doing a Weapon Demonstration video. ▪ - 08:37, 16 March 2015 (PDT)

Yeah I agree with Gabrielwoj, otherwise we'd be constantly doing this demonstration :( Obilisk 13:32, 17 March 2015 (PDT)

Today's update says Mannpower is no longer in Beta. So would now be a good time to do this? Awesome144 (talk) 18:12, 28 October 2015 (PDT)

Yes. — Wind 13:48, 1 November 2015 (PST)

I should have this done soon; I've been sick for a week, so that's why it's taking longer than normal. - Uufje 14:13, 19 December 2015 (PST)

Sorry for the massive delay. I've tried to get it done between being sick and my internet crapping out. https://youtu.be/q3h_aMTkcuU - Uufje 07:20, 20 January 2016 (PST)

There are some kind of long pauses when I imagine you're pressing some binds to set things up in the Sniper+Spy clip. Try to shorten that.

In that same clip, it's not immediately obvious if you're following the hooked person or if your own movement makes the other person move (until later in the clip when the spy moves behind an object). Try to show movement from the target in clear sight when you aren't yet fully attached to them, or perhaps show it while you're up in the air (by having the target be on the crates or something) to make it clear it's not you walking. It's also not clear if you can use your other weapons.

Also, since this is an all-class weapon you need to show it for all classes. I suggest repeating showing a short fly-around clip around the same itinerary. — Wind 17:36, 24 January 2016 (PST)

Alright i'm back, after made some cash with my youtube. I decided to take a break from it, for one month just to make videos here. I'd appreciate it if you can review the videos two times a week, i'm pretty sure i can finish all within this month, because i have nothing else to focus on. Karmacharger 12:09 AM 9/4/2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSwpCJvL1wE will srcdemo2 it if everything is good Karmacharger 3:39 AM 9/4/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please srcdemo2~

Can't do 2 times a week, sorry >: — Wind 18:40, 4 September 2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eyv5MeX_mY Karmacharger 8:01 PM 9/8/2016 (PDT)

Video is private. — Wind 18:46, 17 September 2016 (PDT)

Fixed Karmacharger 12:16 AM 9/20/2016 (PDT)

Forgot to reload in the last Scout clip. Rest is good~ — Wind 18:46, 24 September 2016 (PDT)

Should have told me before i render the clip, and especially it's 2 minutes clip, i think i waited 2 hours for it to render. Next time if it's a long clip like that and has minor issue like reloading, try not to ask me to redo, because it's not fun at all. I'm sorry, i'm not doing it. Didn't mean to be rude. Karmacharger 4:07 PM 9/25/2016 (PDT)

OK, per the new rules (see below) it is fine. Sorry I didn't detect it at first... Please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Shortstop

 Added Alt-fire attack: reach out and shove someone!

 Reduced pushback vulnerable to +20% (from +40%)

 Removed +20% bonus healing from all sources

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 2:18 AM 9/8/2016 (PDT)

Link: https://youtu.be/_EwKBFS9iA8 Luigi609 (talk) 05:35, 16 July 2016 (PDT)

Hi Luigi609, thanks for taking time submitting multiple videos here, we appreciate your effort. I'm pretty sure you know the quality of all your videos, are not acceptable. You need to at least make sure your video quality has meet the minimum requirements. Even better, i have made a example demonstration video based on the minimum requirements: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONgc_XlZpiY this is the minimum quality we can accept. If anything goes wrong, sorry. Now what i want you to do is, compare your video quality to the one i made, and i also recommend you to learn how to make a proper quality video first, before making multiple videos.

Let's take a look at the basic things you have gotten wrong:

1. 1. The video looks very bright
2. 2. The video volume is very low
3. 3. The loadout scene, You should already have your mouse cursor pointing at the item at the beginning of the clip and never moves it
4. 4. Loadout scene are usually 4-6 seconds are enough
5. 5. There are black bars at the top and bottom of the video
6. 6. The video quality itself needs to improve

I won't go too much details into the demonstration itself, i wanna make sure you can get the basic things done right first, which are video quality itself. I'm not the person who approve videos right here, and that person is Windpower. If your video don't look as good as the example video i made, based on the minimum requirements, then it's usually not acceptable. There are millions of video tutorial showing "how to record good quality gaming videos" in YouTube. I suggest you should check them out first, and take your time to learn. Good luck Karmacharger 8:48 PM 7/17/2016 (PDT)

Just want to make it clear, the "video quality" i was talking about, included: (Video quality, Frame rate, Audio quality, No black bars around the video) Karmacharger 12:45 AM 7/18/2016 (PDT)

+1 on what Karma said. I suggest focusing on a single demonstration and getting that submitted rather than submitting lots of weapon demonstration videos at once, in order to avoid redoing many videos on every round.

To add to what Karma said regarding the video quality (not related to the content of the demonstration yet, as this applies to all your demonstration videos):

• The video must be at least 720p. This doesn't mean that YouTube must have a 720p option, it means that the game footage must be recorded at 720p or higher, and must not be rescaled (or have black bars added) afterwards.
• The video contrast has low contrast. This is usually due to too low encoding settings, or invalid monitor color profile. For example, compare one frame I took from this demonstration to one frame I took from Vp999's Overdose demonstration below. You'll notice that the Overdose demonstration has a richer color, rather than bright brown overtones everywhere.
• The video shows aliasing artifacts. For example, look at the edge of the metal pillar on the left of the medic on the above images.
• The volume changes over the course of the video. For example, in this Shortstop demonstration, listen to the background "fan noise" that goes on during the loadout view. You'll notice that as soon as you fire the first shot at 0:15, the background noise decreases all of a sudden. This is usually due to recording software trying to be smart and to normalize the recorded volume; when it encounters a "loud" noise (like the gunshot here), it will decrease the volume that it records at, hence the disappearance of the background noise after the gunshot. Make sure you're not running any such audio normalization software, either on the listening side, or on the recording side, or on the video rendering side.

Hopefully this list gives you some tips as to what to optimize for in terms of quality. Good luck with future versions of the demonstration videos! As I mentioned, I suggest focusing on getting just one video approved before moving on to the others. — Wind 16:29, 17 July 2016 (PDT)

Thanks for the somewhat positive feedback, I am currently working on the shortstop video, but I am running into problems such as: I can't stop fraps from decreasing the video volume, and the reason for the resolution is because of my awkward monitor size which is because I use a HDMI cord to a tv for a monitor.

I don't recommend using Fraps unless you have a PC with expensive specs. I suggest: use Bandicam instead, this is the perfect recorder for anyone with not-so-good PC to use. Fraps takes up too much memory or RAM to use, unlike Bandicam. Bandicam can record the same high quality just like Fraps can do. As for the resolution, what's your monitor resolution? minimum requirement is 1280x720. Karmacharger 8:17 PM 7/20/2016 (PDT)

Also consider using Source Recorder. There's no need for Fraps or Bandicam if Source Recorder works, and you can record at any quality since it's not rendering while you're actively demonstrating the weapon — Wind 19:31, 23 July 2016 (PDT)

Luigi609, just want to ask, will there be any updates for your videos? If not, you may remove all your reservation. Sorry about that, but like said, you need to first learn how to make a HD video. The quality at least looks as good as this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONgc_XlZpiY Karmacharger 11:22 PM 8/19/2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj31s0CQLsQ Karmacharger 9:18 PM 9/8/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 18:46, 17 September 2016 (PDT)

Iron Bomber

 Decreased the fuse time to 1.4 seconds (from 2.0)

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 9:00 PM 7/28/2016(PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It3ibKiH9Bs i know i didn't reload in some clips after fired my weapon, but meh. I hope that's not a big deal Karmacharger 9:19 PM 8/8/2016 (PDT)

Please reload in all clips except the last one where you die before being able to reload. c: — Wind 16:12, 14 August 2016 (PDT)

I need to know, is reloading really important? it's not like i missed to show one of the important features about the weapon itself. Because recording and rendering these clips are really time consuming, and i hope i don't actually have to re-record because i forgot to reload. If i forgot to show something important, even if the clip is 2 minutes, then sure. I'll do it no problem. Because i don't see how "reload" can be a issue for the video Karmacharger 1:56 AM 9/4/2016 (PDT)

Reloading isn't important, but if it isn't done right, someone later will put this weapon up for redo because of it. Or point at this video when their own video has bad reloading to use as an excuse to say "but this video got approved without reloading so why can't mine also be?".

Yes, it's annoying to re-record, I know. — Wind 18:40, 4 September 2016 (PDT)

I hope you can let this one pass this time, just this time. I'm too lazy to re-record and render. But i promise if next time i forget to reload, i will re-render no questions. Karmacharger 4:59 AM 9/7/2016 (PDT)

OK. Please upload~ — Wind 18:46, 17 September 2016 (PDT)

Eureka Effect

 Added "Teleporters cost 50% less metal"

 Reduced "50% less metal from Dispensers and Pickups" to 20%

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 9:01 PM 7/28/2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5eAAGAn7i4 Karmacharger 8:45 PM 9/12/2016 (PDT)

How about making the build speed demonstration be 3-way (normal, eureka, and wrench)? — Wind 18:46, 17 September 2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F6oJV3uJBA Karmacharger 12:16 AM 9/20/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 18:46, 24 September 2016 (PDT)

Cozy Camper

 Now requires a full charge to gain flinch resistance

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 2:18 AM 9/8/2016 (PDT)

Link: https://youtu.be/hVpqWDKTh8Y Luigi609 (talk) 05:26, 16 July 2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onCK5TX0yoE Karmacharger 11:01 PM 9/14/2016 (PDT)

Sorry I missed this. Is good, please upload~ — Wind 18:46, 24 September 2016 (PDT)

Wind can you remove all the latest Cozy camper .dem files i uploaded? the upload got messed up and all these files wasn't updated into one pack file. Karmacharger 3:14 AM 9/27/2016 (PDT)

 Done — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Enforcer

 Attacks pierce resist and absorb effects from all sources

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 9:01 PM 7/28/2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3W-jPEHe1M added text at the last spit-screen to explain what exactly is demonstrating, to avoid confusion. Karmacharger 2:36 AM 9/16/2016 (PDT)

Missed shots on the medic but I assume that's due to the gun's own poor accuracy, since the crosshair was on target.

Please remove the text on the last split-screen, the video is demonstrating each attribute in order so it's pretty clear in that light. Since the video is embedded on non-English wiki pages, it's better to keep the text to a minimum. — Wind 18:46, 17 September 2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wgCHuuijhw Karmacharger 12:15 AM 9/20/2016 (PDT)

You missed the Cozy Camper. Also as much as i hate to say, i will not use srcdemo2 for videos below. I really want to rush and finish all videos here, then go back to my youtube without have to worry about here all the time. Sorry, no srcdemo2 for videos below, but i will still record .dem(s) Karmacharger 12:25 AM 9/20/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 18:46, 24 September 2016 (PDT)

PDA Build

 Level 1 teleporters now cost 50 metal (from 125)

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 2:18 AM 9/8/2016 (PDT)

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyBfTCdcjCI Luigi609 (talk) 09:16, 16 July 2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3skm4oA4jQ Karmacharger 2:03 AM 9/18/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 18:46, 17 September 2016 (PDT)

Bootlegger

 All boots now require a shield to activate any move speed bonus listed on the item

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 9:00 PM 7/28/2016(PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoeERMocXTo If this one is good, i will reuse the .dem files for this for Ali Baba's Wee Booties. Karmacharger 12:27 AM 9/20/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload & reuse~ — Wind 18:46, 24 September 2016 (PDT)

Ali Baba's Wee Booties

 All boots now require a shield to activate any move speed bonus listed on the item

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 9:01 PM 7/28/2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-iSlk8LIt4 Karmacharger 3:30 AM 9/28/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Medi Gun

 All Mediguns allow the Medic to match the speed of their heal target (Previously only available on the Quick Fix)

 Stored ÜberCharge begins to decay over time after coming to rest

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 1:34 AM 9/21/2016 (PDT)

https://youtu.be/zk6FCW3COQU Sorry, will not use srcdemo2 anymore for videos "on this page", except for Golden Frying Pan. I really want to rush and finish all asap. Then back to my channel and make my own videos. But i still record .dem files though Karmacharger 2:58 AM 9/21/2016 (PDT)

OK, that's fine. There's no rush though, you can work on your channel and this page at the same time.

Video is good, please upload~ — Wind 18:46, 24 September 2016 (PDT)

Cloak and Dagger

 Can now pick up ammo kits for cloak meter while visible.

 While invisible, Spy receives 20% less damage from all damage sources

 While invisible, Spy has reduced timer on debuffs (fire, jarate, milk, bleed)

 HUD now displays "Motion" rather than "Cloak"

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 1:34 AM 9/21/2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7xGKBSsggk Both 2 screen scene, the first one and the red spy one has a little bit laggy. Both clip was recorded in my crappy laptop. So i can't really avoid the lag at all. Also i don't really know how to demonstrate the "-35% cloak meter from ammo boxes", it's tedious to have both Cloak and Dagger and the stock invisible stock to pick up a ammo box at the exact same cloak rate, Simply because the Cloak and Dagger and the Stock Invisible Watch has different cloak recharge speed. Well i don't know, tell me what you think about it. Also no srcdemo2 sorry again. Karmacharger 12:02 AM 9/22/2016 (PDT)

One last thing i forgot to mention, is that the jarate looks weird. It's a texture bug "made" by Valve. Because i'm not the only one who have the same problem Karmacharger 12:26 AM 9/22/2016 (PDT)

Need to reload at 2:43. The lag is fine, barely noticeable. Rest is good~ — Wind 18:46, 24 September 2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vigucV_Gf6w Karmacharger 4:11 AM 9/26/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Dead Ringer

 Cloak mechanism has been overhauled (see patch notes)

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 1:34 AM 9/21/2016 (PDT)

Link: https://youtu.be/Rdm4q33_3kY Luigi609 (talk) 09:59, 16 July 2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh7czRyepF0 Man this video took balls to make. Anyway it's such a complicated weapon, i'm not even sure if i covered everything. The obvious issues with this video is, the "small screen" scenes has a little bit laggy, and some part it doesn't, like i said i used a crappy laptop to help record. Another thing is, during the thirdperson view on the Engineer buildings part, you can see my shadow is holding a Rocket Launcher in thirdperson. It happens to every other classes i disguse, same goes for my Cloak and Dagger, you can see the shadow of me holding a Grenade Launcher... which is pretty cool and funny though. Anyway, tell me what you think about it Karmacharger 5:07 AM 9/23/2016 (PDT)

The split-screen hud doesn't work anymore after Meet Your Match update. I've updated the hud by myself: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4s3l7f3rlizq5s/Demonstration%20HUD%20V2.rar?dl=0 "health only" hud doesn't work, i have no idea how to fix it, maybe you have a clue. Also update the download link on the project page and use mine. Thanks Karmacharger 4:00 PM 9/23/2016 (PDT)

I don't know how to fix the HUD :( I've uploaded the rar file to http://weaponref.wiki.tf/HUDv2.rar. Thanks.

Dead Ringer video is good (and yes, very long and complicated to make, so thanks a lot for doing it) and its issues are minor. Please upload~ — Wind 18:46, 24 September 2016 (PDT)

Gloves of Running Urgently

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 2:33 PM 5/27/2016 (PDT)

 Increased holster time penalty

https://youtu.be/mTwJCtUefFc Karmacharger 3:54 AM 9/25/2016 (PDT)

Need to reload the Shotgun at the end — Wind 18:46, 24 September 2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD0qwpA0s6k Karmacharger 4:04 AM 9/27/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker

 Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 1:38 AM 9/21/2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNRLQjNVJy0 Karmacharger 4:12 AM 9/25/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 18:46, 24 September 2016 (PDT)

Jag

 With the change to Base Construction boost, Jag bonus has improved.

 Added +15% swing speed.

 Added 20% repair penalty. Repairs will give up to 80hp per swing instead 100hp per swing.

 Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)

 Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%

 Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)

 Added damage penalty against buildings. Now takes 3 hits to destroy a Sapper.)

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 12:03 AM 3/12/2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQHG4Z2t1tc Karmacharger 4:13 AM 9/26/2016 (PDT)

Is good. Thanks for highlighting the Sapper part. Please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Loose Cannon

 Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

 Reduced projectile speed

 Reduced cannon impact damage from 60 to 50. Damage also scales with distance.

 Reduced knockback from cannon hit. Knockback strength is now similar to airblast.

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 4:13 AM 9/25/2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nrmEcxVtWg Karmacharger 4:01 AM 9/28/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Manmelter

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 4:13 AM 9/25/2016 (PDT)

 Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

 Removed hidden 20% fire rate penalty

https://youtu.be/AbkSxNIzltw Karmacharger 11:03 PM 9/28/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Market Gardener

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 6:08 PM 9/28/2016 (PDT)

 20% Attack Speed penalty

Link: https://youtu.be/TIK-xlOtyTU, I just uploaded it, give it some time to process the HD. Luigi609 (talk) 04:09, 16 July 2016 (PDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_ROiur39ug Karmacharger 7:23 PM 9/28/2016 (PDT)

Didn't reload rocket launcher but that's OK per new rules. Is good, please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Natascha

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 6:08 PM 9/28/2016 (PDT)

 20% damage resistance now only applies when spun up and below 50% max health

 Stun amount now has distance falloff. Decreases starting at 512hu down to zero stun at 1536Hu

https://youtu.be/spCQF7OGycw Karmacharger 11:03 PM 9/28/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Necro Smasher

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 6:08 PM 9/28/2016 (PDT)  Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)

 Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)

 Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%

 Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)

Yes, for the Engineer it functions as a Wrench, and all the Wrench things are demonstrated in this video. - Uufje 01:40, 3 July 2015 (PDT)

https://youtu.be/ZjNyFxQMaUE Karmacharger 3:57 AM 10/2/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Nostromo Napalmer

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 6:09 PM 9/28/2016 (PDT)

 Extinguishing allies now grants +20hp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUs9Iz4_hm4 Karmacharger 8:23 PM 10/1/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Panic Attack

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 6:10 PM 9/28/2016 (PDT)

 No longer auto-fires when fully loaded. Shots can be held and released at will.

https://youtu.be/AwXiufAG32c i reused Obilisk's .dem for the faster deploy clips. Karmacharger 1:29 AM 10/2/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ And yay on .dem reuse. — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Persian Persuader

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 6:11 PM 9/28/2016 (PDT)

 Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

 Removed ammo pickups granting health instead of ammo

 Added penalties of reduced primary and secondary ammo

 Ammo pickups now replenish charge

 Now gains charge meter on hit

https://youtu.be/TY96Y4jmfbw Karmacharger 2:54 AM 9/29/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Phlogistinator

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 6:11 PM 9/28/2016 (PDT)

 Removed 10% damage penalty.

 When activating 'MMMPH', the taunting Pyro gains temporary invulnerability and immunity to knockback effects.

 No longer restores player to max health on MMMPH activate.

 Increased amount of damage required to fill MMMPH meter to 300 from 225.

I'd recommend no one reserving this demonstration yet. Seems like a weapon Valve should nerf... Hopefully soon. Obilisk 22:32, 25 December 2015 (PST)

Cool, weapon has had a minor nerf. Obilisk 20:27, 20 January 2016 (PST)

They should do a miner movement speed. Like -10% movement speed. I'm the real TTheenderr (talk) 08:07, 8 February 2016 (PST)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4pK8dJJCBc Karmacharger 1:55 AM 9/30/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Pomson 6000

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 6:11 PM 9/28/2016 (PDT)

 Über and Cloak drain decreases over distance from target.

 Reduced long-range damage to 32 (from 42)

https://youtu.be/cLE6wq0fsqo Not redoing because i didn't reload in the drain uber and cloak clip, i did reload for the rest for the clips. Karmacharger 11:44 PM 9/30/2016 (PDT)

Also for some reason, it doesn't light huntsman's arrow on fire anymore. Believe it or not, i shot the sniper's huntsman a hundred times on different direction. Well Valve. Karmacharger 12:43 AM 10/2/2016 (PDT)

valve pls

Inconsistent spy cloaks and medigun but I guess that's fine for this demo because their behavior vs this item is the same. Is good, please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Quickiebomb Launcher

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 2:45 AM 10/2/2016 (PDT)

 Damage is now increased based on charge amount when the bomb is fired

 Increased charge time reduction to -70% (from -50%)

 Increased damage bonus for max charged shots to +35% (from +25%)

 Increased clip size penalty to -50% (from -25%)

 Removed Stickybombs fizzle 4 seconds after landing

https://youtu.be/8vF0Q8iawvI Not redoing because i didn't reload in that "damage bonus based on charge" clip. Because why does it matter anyway? Karmacharger 7:34 PM 10/2/2016 (PDT)

As said before, it's not the reloading process itself that matters, it's the fact that having a rule on reloading makes reloading behavior consistent across demonstrators.

For example, I wanted to avoid someone demonstrating the Shotgun video and reloading their shotgun every 3 shells while shooting at the far-away medic in the first clip. That would result in a different amount of time to kill the medic, because the total time spent reloading would be higher (since {time to reload 3 shells at once 2 times} is larger than {time it takes to reload 6 shells at once}).

As another example, I also wanted the end of the clip to include a full reload, because a weapon's usefulness cannot be judged if we don't see the full cooldown that we have to obey in order to use it. Thus, by reloading at the end of the clip, it brings back the weapon to its initial state that it had at the beginning of the clip. That time has to be factored in when picking a weapon. An analogous version of this principle would be to compare the Brass Beast/Tomislav/Minigun: it wouldn't make sense to compare these weapons without taking spin-up/spin-down time in consideration. The logic is the same for reloading. Take the Panic Attack demo which you also did this week; it'd be unfair to compare the Shotgun to it if we didn't include the Shotgun's own reloading time.

Agreed-upon consistency means less disagreement (both during review and for redo consideration), and less disagreement means less redos. Those were the ideas behind the rule.

While I appreciate you questioning the rule's usefulness, I'd prefer if you did so without the passive-aggressive tone. I understand that redos take time and that it's frustrating to be told to redo a long clip over something that might seem silly and arbitrary like this, but that isn't a valid reason to project that frustration unto others. Doing so creates a less-productive environment for both of us.

With all that being said, clearly the rule doesn't seem to be working very well here. As a result, I have edited it as a compromise that still fulfills the above objectives. It now says that weapons must only be reloaded when their clip is fully empty, or if it's the end of the *first* clip (pyro+soldier+medic kill). For clips other than the first clip, reloading at the end is now optional. It now only applies to the weapon being demonstrated rather than to all weapons, and is explicitly only about the person holding the demonstrated weapon (i.e. excludes bots and other players). Hopefully that will make the rule easier to follow, yet still provide some a good degree of useful consistency across demonstrators. Hopefully this is satifactory; let me know if it's not and we can try to work out something else.

As for the Quickiebomb launcher: is good, please upload~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

Rescue Ranger

 Healing per bolt reduced from 75 to 60

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 2:45 AM 10/2/2016 (PDT)

https://youtu.be/SRrfLUGLi8M Karmacharger 12:25 AM 10/3/2016 (PDT)

Is good, please upload~

I will publish all these videos next week. — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

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