User:Fiskie/Community Mann Manor strategy

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Basic Information
Developer(s): {{{map-developer}}}
Map Info
Environment: Halloween
Setting: Nighttime
Hazards: Pumpkin bombs,
Horseless Headless Horsemann,
Pit
Map Photos
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This article is about Community Mann Manor strategy.

General Map Strategy

General Horseless Headless Horsemann Strategy

Class Strategy
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Scout
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Horseless Headless Horsemann
Pictogram info.png Playing as Scout allows you to evade the Horsemann's attacks more easily than other classes with your jumping and running abilities.

Pictogram info.png Hit-and-run tactics are a necessity when attacking Horseless Headless Horsemann.

Pictogram plus.png Bonk! Atomic Punch will allow you to survive the Horsemann's melee attack.

Pictogram plus.png The Soda Popper is an ineffective weapon to use as the Horsemann does not take damage from mini-crits.

Pictogram minus.png Do not use Crit-a-Cola against the Horsemann. Your attacks will deal no extra damage and will make it easier for the Horsemann to kill you.

Pictogram minus.png The Sandman baseball and Fan O'War are ineffective against the Horsemann as it cannot be stunned by baseballs or marked for death, respectively.

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Soldier
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Horseless Headless Horsemann

Pictogram info.png  Rocket jumping is a viable method of retreating if the Horsemann is chasing you. Jumping from the different heights around Control Point B will force the Horsemann to take long routes, and may give up chasing you.

Pictogram plus.png  A Kritzkrieg ÜberCharge will allow a skilled Soldier to make short work of the Horsemann, as a pack of critical rockets and Shotgun shells will take a large chunk of its health away. This can be combined with rocket jumping to stay clear of the Horsemann's melee attack.

Pictogram plus.png  The Direct Hit is probably the Soldier's best primary weapon to use against the Horsemann. The projectiles are fast and do high damage, and the Horsemann is large enough for you not to worry too much about missing it.

Pictogram plus.png  The Shotgun can be effective against the Horsemann as base damage remains the same when attacking it. This will allow you to do more damage from a longer range than normal.

Pictogram minus.png Charging the Horsemann with the Equalizer at very low health will only be effective if the enemy team is not around and the Horsemann is stunned, as your crits will deal around 300 damage. Otherwise, it's a risky strategy.

Pictogram minus.png The Black Box does not award health upon hitting the Horsemann and is a considerable drawback when its reduced ammo is taken into account.

Pictogram minus.png The Buff Banner does not charge from the Horsemann, and mini-crits do not work on him either.

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Pyro
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Horseless Headless Horsemann

Pictogram info.png Because the Horsemann does not suffer afterburn damage, using the Pyro against the Horsemann is inadvisable. In addition, the Pyro's short range of effectiveness and the Horsemann's resistance to Flamethrowers makes attacking head-on a very deadly prospect.

Pictogram plus.png The Backburner can be moderately effective if the Horsemann is distracted.

Pictogram plus.png The Shotgun can be effective against the Horsemann as base damage remains the same when attacking it. This will allow you to do more damage from a longer range than normal.

Pictogram minus.png The Reserve Shooter will not mini-crit against the Horsemann so this is not recommended.

Pictogram minus.png The Flare Gun and the Detonator are possibly some of the worst weapons to use against the Horsemann as he cannot catch on fire. Only the minimal flare impact damage will register.

Pictogram minus.png Airblasts will not work on the Horsemann as he cannot be knocked back.

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Demoman
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Horseless Headless Horsemann

Pictogram info.png You can try to retreat by charging with the Chargin' Targe or Splendid Screen in a single direction across open ground.

Pictogram plus.png Direct hits with the Grenade Launcher or Loch-n-Load will cause large amounts of damage to the Horsemann, so it is advisable to lead your shots slightly to ensure they connect. This strategy is especially effective with a Kritzkrieg ÜberCharge.

Pictogram plus.png Stickybomb traps are very effective against the Horsemann, as he will not try to avoid them, it just requires having the IT player lure the Horsemann onto the trap.

Pictogram minus.png Playing as a Demoknight is risky as the Horsemann attacks if it feels something is blocking its movement, and a player will be made IT if they are closest when the Horsemann changes target.


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Heavy
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Horseless Headless Horsemann

Pictogram info.png The Heavy is one of the best classes to go head-on against the Horsemann. Despite its resistance to Minigun bullets, any Minigun will shred the boss in a matter of seconds at short range, even without crits.

Pictogram info.png The Heavy is slow thus vulnerable if he does not have a Medic pocketing him ready to pull an Uber if the Horsemann picks either of them as their next target.

Pictogram minus.png The Buffalo Steak Sandvich is not recommended except to attempt quick getaways.

Pictogram minus.png The Shotgun should rarely be used, as the time between shots and damage spread mean you will always get more damage from your primary weapon. Nonetheless, if you have run out of ammunition for your primary weapon, remember that base damage remains constant while attacking the Horsemann, so you can use the Shotgun effectively from further ranges than normal.

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Engineer
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Horseless Headless Horsemann

Pictogram info.png Since the Horsemann is not affected by knock back, the player should never rely on his sentry to keep the monster away.

Pictogram info.png the Horsemann will attack anything he walks into - this includes players and buildings.

Pictogram plus.png Sentry Guns will target the Horsemann even when it is outside their normal range.

Pictogram plus.png Because Sentry Guns never deal critical hits (except mini-crits, which do not affect the Horsemann), your Sentry Gun can be an effective way to deal damage to the Horsemann without angering it. Use the Wrangler for maximum damage.

Pictogram plus.png The Shotgun and Pistol can both be effective against the Horsemann as their base damage remains the same when attacking it. This will allow you to do more damage from a longer range than normal.

Pictogram minus.png The Widowmaker does not return metal for damage done to the Horsemann.

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Medic
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Horseless Headless Horsemann

Pictogram info.png If you do not have an ÜberCharge ready, it is best advised to stay away and build one up, as the Horsemann attacks in order of whoever is closest.

Pictogram info.png Most of the Medic's weapons are relatively ineffective, so the Medic should be reserved to a support role. Use your ÜberCharge on a teammate so they can attack the Horsemann.

Pictogram minus.png It is risky to use the Quick-Fix or the Kritzkrieg against the Horsemann, as The Horsemann's melee attack is a 1-Hit KO except against Ubered players and Dead Ringer spies.

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Sniper
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Horseless Headless Horsemann

Pictogram info.png The basic Sniper Rifle has medium effectiveness against the Horsemann, as headshots do not deal extra damage. However, charging shots is still worthwhile as the damage will properly scale against the Horsemann. The Machina will deal slightly more damage in this regard.

Pictogram plus.png The Sydney Sleeper's faster charge rate makes it more useful than the standard Sniper Rifle, since the Sniper Rifle can not score headshots on the Horsemann.

Pictogram plus.png Additionally, the Huntsman is the only Sniper weapon that can cause critical hits upon headshotting the Horsemann.

Pictogram minus.png Jarate does not affect the Horsemann.

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Spy
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Horseless Headless Horsemann

Pictogram info.png The Dead Ringer's feign death ability will allow you to survive one hit, however the Horsemann will continue to follow you even when cloaked.

Pictogram plus.png The Revolver and the Enforcer are the most viable weapons to use, although it should only be used against the Horsemann if it is focused on another player.

Pictogram minus.png The Spy is rather ineffective against the Horsemann as a Backstab only does normal knife damage, rendering its primary function useless.

Pictogram minus.png The Ambassador cannot score headshots against the Horsemann.

Pictogram minus.png As with any other on-hit effect weapons, Your Eternal Reward, Conniver's Kunai and the Big Earner will not grant you a bonus upon getting the last hit on the Horsemann and should be avoided.