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| − | == Dota == | + | {{Talk archive |
| − | As the [[DOTA 2]] items are promotional should they also be listed on this page? [[User:Casperr|Casperr]] 17:27, 17 January 2012 (PST)
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| − | Will add this later in the main section following irc discussion.
| + | == Simplifying the templates == |
| − | Promotional items (and event items) are not explicitly marked as uncraftable, however, unlike regular hats they do not yeild headgear when combined.
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| − | [[User:UltimateTerabyte|'''''UltimateTerabyte''''']] 11:34, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Should the whole Vintage Lugermorph business be added in the notes of the Sam & Max Lugermorph? If so, here's a sentence that could be added: "These Lugermorphs became [[Rarity#Vintage items|Vintage]] when the Poker Night at the Inventory items were added to the game in the [[November 19, 2010 Patch]]" [[User:Nizar|Nizar]] 07:57, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
| + | The "Used by", "Type", "Released", and "Notes" columns in the templates all have information that can be found in the articles for the items. The "Notes" column is specially problematic, as community events that grant unique rewards still happen, making it so translations need to be constantly added - the result is a lot of text in English in this article's translations. |
| − | :It's already mentioned on the lugermorph article. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 08:01, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Limited Items ==
| + | I suggest we apply the same format used in the [[Cosmetic_items#List_of_cosmetic_items|List of [class] cosmetics]] pages - not only it would remove the need for constant updates, it would also shorten the page's length ''a lot''. - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 04:32, 13 September 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | Should they also end up here? Or is this strictly for the promotional items. Examples being the Cheater's Lament and golden wrench. For that matter, is the golden wrench technically limited or promotional, or both? -= [[User:M-NINJA|<font color="Blue">'''M-NINJA'''</font>]] [[File:Burger_Gib.png|24px|link=User_talk:M-NINJA]] =- 03:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
| + | :I think this should only be done for medals, personally, maybe make a separate charity, tournament, and event participation section so they're all still grouped together.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 10:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC) |
| − | :Promotional means just that. Not limited. That's something to keep in mind, though. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 03:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Limited in the sense you mean, I mean. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 03:21, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == New Column? == | + | == NECA Action Figures == |
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| − | Now that there are so many promotional items with varying states of obtainability, should we consider adding another column to each table row which indicates whether or not a particular item is still obtainable? Example values would be "No", "Craft (Non-Genuine only)", "Purchase (Non-Genuine only)", "Achievement", etc. [[User:Noibn|Noibn]] 14:53, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
| + | Currently, in the "Active" section of the promotional item list, it is stated in that the three [[Promotional items#NECA Action Figures|NECA Action Figures]] "...has not been released by NECA or Valve.". |
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| − | == Japan Charity Items ==
| + | Moreover, I have not found any proof that these action figures were even announced or in production. |
| − | I've already tried to discuss this on the [[Magnanimous Monarch|talk:Magnanimous Monarch]] page, but no-one's really given me any feedback.
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| − | I think it takes some of the meaning out of the [[Japan Charity Bundle]] items being charitable if they are listed as being "promotional" - this associates them with marketing and advertising, which isn't the point of them at all. I suggest making a new section for [[Charity items]], seeing as there are enough of them to merit a new section. Does anyone else support this? If not, then at the very least the description on the [[Promotional items]] page should be altered to accommodate charity items as well.
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| − | [[User:Cooper Kid|Cooper Kid]] 18:37, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | : maybe if there was ever another "charity item" it'd warrant it [[User:HyenaDip|HyenaDip]] 22:23, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
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| − | : There are 5 of them - I think that's enough to warrant a new page. [[User:Cooper Kid|Cooper Kid]] 11:31, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
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| − | : I support a second page as well, even if we never get any additional charity items. It just seems like bad form to mix and mingle "charity" with "promotion". [[User:Noibn|Noibn]] 14:56, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Steam Game Gifts ==
| + | I vote for this section to be removed altogether; '''first''' because these figures were not even released, no need to have them in the "Active" section. '''Secondly''', there is no proof that they are in production in the first place (Unless there is and I missed something). |
| − | I found something very interesting a short while ago. I had purchased a 4 Pack of Monday Night Combat back during the promotional period. One of the guys in on the split bailed so I was stuck with an extra copy. I found that when I gifted it to another player through Steam, the user still got the promotional items, even though the promotion had long since ended! [[User:Nam-Ereh-Won|Nam-Ereh-Won]] 20:22, 3 July 2011 (PDT) | |
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| + | As always, I'd love to hear your opinion in the matter. |
| − | == Requested move ==
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| − | Move article to ''Promotional item''? I think singular is better than plural for an article title, would look neater. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 00:43, 8 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :{{c|Oppose}} Considering there are multiple Promotional items on the page, and in-game, I think the page name should remain plural. <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:17px;color:#70B031">[[User:MogDog66|MogDog66]][[File:User MogDog66 Service Metal No WhiteSpace.png|24px|link=User_talk:MogDog66]]</span> 04:10, 18 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | *{{c|Oppose}} since there are more than one promotional item the name should be promotional items. Basic English. [[User:Thespy|Thespy]] 20:38, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::{{c|Oppose}} There are many promotional items, not just one. [[User:Isakcool|Isakcool]] 10:42, 22 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::{{c|Oppose}} "This might be my gun, but there are many like it." Having a (quite clearly, have you seen how many promotional items there are) plural term be refered to as singular is just silly.[[User:Nyttyn|Nyttyn]] 07:47, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::{{c|Oppose}} Nearly all oversight articles are plural ([[Hats]], [[Doves]], [[Grockets]], [[Weapons]]), I don't see how this article should be an exception. -- <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 08:30, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::{{c|Oppose}} Unlike doves and grockets, which should be moved (discussion was ended well before a decision was made), this article is about a variety of different items. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 08:35, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::{{c|Oppose}} per Thespy. [[User:Coreycubed|coreycubed]] / [[User talk:Coreycubed|talk]] 17:17, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::{{c|nope}} [[User:L33tz0rx|L33tz0rx]] 18:57, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::{{c|nope}} On this page, not one but many items--<b>[[User:Nik9990|<font FACE="Times New Roman" color="#008000">Nik9990</font>]]</b> <font FACE="Times New Roman" color="#808080">[[User_talk:Nik9990|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nik9990|Cont]]</font> 18:58, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::{{c|Oppose}} I do not remember making this thread and I think it is a bad idea. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 19:01, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::{{c|Oppose|Eez not possible}} Several promotional items instead of only one. {{n}} {{User:EpicEric/Sig/Image|RED}} {{User:EpicEric/Sig/Text|Epic|#5885A2}} {{User:EpicEric/Sig/Text|Eric|#B8383B}} {{User:EpicEric/Sig/Image|BLU}}{{User:EpicEric/Sig/Extra}} 19:04, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | Apparently, we've reached a general consensus. The article will stay the way it is. {{n}} {{User:EpicEric/Sig/Image|RED}} {{User:EpicEric/Sig/Text|Epic|#5885A2}} {{User:EpicEric/Sig/Text|Eric|#B8383B}} {{User:EpicEric/Sig/Image|BLU}}{{User:EpicEric/Sig/Extra}} 19:15, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
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| | + | [[User:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Yossef'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Talk'''</font>]] 08:32, 31 October 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | == Order == | + | : This is a somewhat unique situation. It's true that NECA hasn't announced production of the BLU Series 4 figures, as far as I am aware. But since they '''are''' documented in the item schema, and are definitely the intended promotional items ''for'' the remaining NECA figures, I don't think they should be removed from the page entirely; I would recommend moving them to an "unreleased items" section, below the expired ones, the same way I handled tournament medals that were defined in the schema, but went unused, as their events passed without a way to obtain them. — [[File:User ThatHatGuy Signature Icon.png|30px|link=User:ThatHatGuy]] 09:44, 31 October 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | This may be a mistake on my part, but is there any kind of chronological or otherwise order on this page? I say this because to me, the weapons, hats, and misc. items listed here were just dropped here. --[[User:Protroid|Protroid]] 13:16, 23 August 2011 (PDT) | + | ::{{Pro}} This is an interesting idea, I'm down to remove it from the "Active" section and create a "Unreleased" section below, like you mentioned. [[User:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Yossef'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Talk'''</font>]] 10:37, 31 October 2023 (UTC) |
| − | :The promoted games are listed alphabetically, with the exception of ''Other'' and ''Cut promotional items''. -- <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 13:25, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :: Oh, thank you. --[[User:Protroid|Protroid]] 16:13, 23 August 2011 (PDT) | + | :::{{Pro}} I support moving them to an "Unreleased" section as well. - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 11:51, 31 October 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | :: Is there any way to set this page up so you can choose alphabetical or release date instead of just one or the other? [[User:Mattwo|Mattwo]] 14:04, 16 November 2011 (PST) | + | ::::{{Done}} Thanks everyone for your two cents. [[User:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Yossef'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Talk'''</font>]] 13:48, 31 October 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | == See also == | + | == Goodie cauldron. == |
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| − | Do we really need the "See also" links to Wikipedia when there are pages to those games right on the wiki with links to Wikipedia already? [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] 06:46, 11 October 2011 (PDT)
| + | Expired now, right? [[User:Cheezcracker|Cheezcracker]] ([[User talk:Cheezcracker|talk]]) 15:27, 14 January 2024 (UTC) |
| − | :Are you simply suggesting the links are changed so they go to the TF2 Wiki pages instead of Wikipedia? If so then I {{c|support}}. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 08:09, 11 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::Pretty much. Making the section names the "links" would be the easiest way. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] 19:21, 11 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :::I've always thought that section headings shouldn't be linked, but replacing the current ''See Also'' bit with Wiki links would be fine. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 15:15, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Template == | + | :Yeah.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 15:29, 14 January 2024 (UTC) |
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| − | I saw that some tables of other languages are outdated, maybe, with a template, can we solve this problem. I made [[User:Dio/Promotional items|this]], I have only edited the alien swarm for a preview. <small>[[User:Dio|<span style="color:#404040">Dio ★</span>]] | [[User talk:Dio|<span style="color:#616161">talk</span>]]</small> 12:55, 11 November 2011 (PST)
| + | == Some Total War items are still obtainable == |
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| − | == The "Other" Section. ==
| + | Some of the promotional items from Total War Franchise like Genuine Freedom Staff, Genuine King of Scotland Cape, Genuine Stovepipe Sniper Shako, Genuine Foppish Physician, Genuine Distinguished Rogue, Genuine Menpo and Genuine K-9 Mane are still obtainable for activating Retail Total War keys, like Total War Master Collection. |
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| − | The items showed in the other section are pretty wrong, neither of the Seal mask or the Manniversarry Hat was given. It was the cauldron/gift, in-fact the Manniversarry hat is drop able unlike the gift which is not.
| + | [[User:TvojjKott|TvojjKott]] ([[User talk:TvojjKott|talk]]) 21:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC) |
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| − | I thought I'll better get an +support from some people before doing something, also I added the Dota 2 Items, valve will probably will use them again for a promotion item for Dota 2 itself but for now it's only for the Dota 2 International players.
| + | :Looks legit, I'll move them.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 22:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC) |
| − | [[User:Atlas|Atlas]] 12:56, 20 November 2011 (PST)
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| − | :The International Players didn't got the Dota 2 hats. The rumour that they did is unfounded and false. -- <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 13:21, 20 November 2011 (PST)
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| − | As the [[DOTA 2]] items are promotional should they also be listed on this page? [[User:Casperr|Casperr]] 17:27, 17 January 2012 (PST)
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| − | :As they are not officially released it's pointless to do so, also we don't want to post false information.[[User:Atlas|Atlas]] 18:32, 24 April 2012 (PST)
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| − | == Renaming Others to In-Game Promotions. ==
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| − | Well others are really things that are built in to the game by doing so and so. should we rename it? [[User:Atlas|Atlas]] 10:31, 24 April 2012 (PDT)
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| − | The Triclops and The Flamingo Kid are the wrong way round. [[User:Taser9001|Taser9001]] 04:00, 25 May 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :Fixed. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 05:01, 25 May 2012 (PDT)
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| − | i heard talk about a new promo...i dont know the name. Anybody know what im talking about or have any info on these promo's? [[User:TubbyMonster|TubbyMonster]] 16:38, 21 July 2012 (PDT)
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| − | I have no idea how to add a game to the list or anything like that, so I'm just gonna tell you.
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| − | We need to add the Company of Heroes 2 items.
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| − | Such as the German and Soviet peaked caps and the medals.
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| − | Would prove to be so helpful!
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| − | Would show name and date released.
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Simplifying the templates
The "Used by", "Type", "Released", and "Notes" columns in the templates all have information that can be found in the articles for the items. The "Notes" column is specially problematic, as community events that grant unique rewards still happen, making it so translations need to be constantly added - the result is a lot of text in English in this article's translations.
I suggest we apply the same format used in the List of [class] cosmetics pages - not only it would remove the need for constant updates, it would also shorten the page's length a lot. - BrazilianNut (talk) 04:32, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- I think this should only be done for medals, personally, maybe make a separate charity, tournament, and event participation section so they're all still grouped together.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) 10:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
NECA Action Figures
Currently, in the "Active" section of the promotional item list, it is stated in that the three NECA Action Figures "...has not been released by NECA or Valve.".
Moreover, I have not found any proof that these action figures were even announced or in production.
I vote for this section to be removed altogether; first because these figures were not even released, no need to have them in the "Active" section. Secondly, there is no proof that they are in production in the first place (Unless there is and I missed something).
As always, I'd love to hear your opinion in the matter.
Yossef • Talk 08:32, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- This is a somewhat unique situation. It's true that NECA hasn't announced production of the BLU Series 4 figures, as far as I am aware. But since they are documented in the item schema, and are definitely the intended promotional items for the remaining NECA figures, I don't think they should be removed from the page entirely; I would recommend moving them to an "unreleased items" section, below the expired ones, the same way I handled tournament medals that were defined in the schema, but went unused, as their events passed without a way to obtain them. —
09:44, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
This is an interesting idea, I'm down to remove it from the "Active" section and create a "Unreleased" section below, like you mentioned. Yossef • Talk 10:37, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- I support moving them to an "Unreleased" section as well. - BrazilianNut (talk) 11:51, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
Done Thanks everyone for your two cents. Yossef • Talk 13:48, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
Goodie cauldron.
Expired now, right? Cheezcracker (talk) 15:27, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah.
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Some Total War items are still obtainable
Some of the promotional items from Total War Franchise like Genuine Freedom Staff, Genuine King of Scotland Cape, Genuine Stovepipe Sniper Shako, Genuine Foppish Physician, Genuine Distinguished Rogue, Genuine Menpo and Genuine K-9 Mane are still obtainable for activating Retail Total War keys, like Total War Master Collection.
TvojjKott (talk) 21:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Looks legit, I'll move them.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 22:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
