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== Steampunk? ==
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I don't see how it's steampunk. Maybe I'm just missing something. '''''<span style="font-size:110%; font-style:italic;">[[File:Leaderboard_class_soldier.png|x19px|link=User:Just_a_Gigolo]][[User:Just_a_Gigolo|Just a Gigolo]]</span> - ([[User talk:Just_a_Gigolo|talk]])''''' 07:04, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
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:Yeah, I didn't comprehend that either. Steampunk? The only thing that reminds me vaguely of it is the bullet belt. Probably useless, but I'll keep it in case. [[File:Painted_Vintage_Merryweather_7E7E7E.png|x19px]][[User:Flamborsia|Fyahweather]] 07:18, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
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::I remember seeing it on the Polycount thread, and I remember seeing cogs attached to it. The dirty brown look combined with the cogs and bullet belt is what gives it a steampunk feeling overall. At least, it does for me and I am pretty sure I'm not the only one. Just my two cents. <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|x19px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 11:18, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 
:::Sup guys, Hideous here - I modeled the hat and it is not (intentionally) a steampunk hat. The cog was added for style/more relevance to the Engineer. --[[User:Hideous|Hideous]] 11:24, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 
::::Thanks for clearing that up, mate. Congratulations, by the way, for getting the hat into the game. It looks fantastic. <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|x19px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 11:33, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 
:::::I'll second that thanks. I can't wait until I craft one. '''''<span style="font-size:110%; font-style:italic;">[[File:Leaderboard_class_soldier.png|x19px|link=User:Just_a_Gigolo]][[User:Just_a_Gigolo|Just a Gigolo]]</span> - ([[User talk:Just_a_Gigolo|talk]])''''' 11:35, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 
:::::Don't forget to add [http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/pie_tony Pie_Tony] to the contributed by thing, he's the guy that made the texture. I don't know how this wiki business works entirely, so you do it :D --[[User:Hideous|Hideous]] 11:37, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 
::::::Danke. Brilliant hat by the way. The only problem with it is the bullet belt. The belt only uses 35% of the bullets. [[File:Painted_Vintage_Merryweather_7E7E7E.png|x19px]][[User:Flamborsia|Fyahweather]] 13:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 
:::::::Are you talking about the shotgun ammo? Because I am fairly certain that the bullets on the hat are '''not''' shotgun shells. <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|x19px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 14:59, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 
::::::::He's making a Portal 2 joke. Remember the Turret Trailer? '''''<span style="font-size:100%; font-style:italic;">[[File:Leaderboard_class_soldier.png|x19px|link=User:Just_a_Gigolo]][[User:Just_a_Gigolo|Just a Gigolo]]</span> - ([[User talk:Just_a_Gigolo|talk]])''''' 11:04, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 
:::::::::Because, remember folks. Only Aperture Science uses ALL of the bullet. And where do they get the bullets from?
 
:::::::::"Who touched Sasha? WHO TOUCHED MY GUN?" [[File:Painted_Vintage_Merryweather_7E7E7E.png|x19px]][[User:Flamborsia|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Fyahweather'''</u></big></tt></font></span>]] 12:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 
:::::::::Seriously? I missed that joke? Bloody hell, I'm an idiot. Please excuse me for a minute while I headdesk at my own ineptitude. <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|x19px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 12:52, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 
::::::::::Don't feel bad, that joke went over my head for quite a while. '''''<span style="font-size:100%; font-style:italic;">[[File:Leaderboard_class_soldier.png|19px|link=User:Just_a_Gigolo]][[User:Just_a_Gigolo|Just a Gigolo]]</span> - ([[User talk:Just_a_Gigolo|talk]])''''' 15:19, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Belt Buckle? ==
 
 
 
You guys do know that is a Spur.Right? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Awesomesauce|Awesomesauce]]''' ([[User talk:Awesomesauce|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Awesomesauce|contribs]]) 2011-05-08T18:15:01</small>
 
:"The cog..."
 
:<big>"The cog..."</big>
 
:<big><big>"The cog..."</big></big>
 
:<big><big><big>"The cog..."</big></big></big>
 
:It's right above, for the love of mud. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 22:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 
::Spurs are sharp. Also, what Maggosh said. '''''<span style="font-size:100%; font-style:italic;">[[File:Leaderboard_class_soldier.png|19px|link=User:Just_a_Gigolo]][[User:Just_a_Gigolo|Just a Gigolo]]</span> - ([[User talk:Just_a_Gigolo|talk]])''''' 14:28, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 
:::It's a cog. &ndash; [[User:Smashman|<font color=#507D2A>Smashman</font>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> 14:32, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Bullets ==
 
 
 
I'm not an expert on ammunition, but can anyone tell what caliber those bullets are? —'''[[User:GeminiViRiS|<font color="green" size="2px">GeminiViRiS</font>]]''' [[Image:User GeminiViRiS Doubleface.jpg|20px|link=User:GeminiViRiS]] [[User_talk:GeminiViRiS|Talk]]{{md}}[[Special:Contributions/GeminiViRiS|Contribs]] 08:06, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 
:I'm guessing it's the same caliber as the [[Pistol]]'s boolets. {{n}}[[File:User_Ohyeahcrucz_Sig.png|20px|sub]] [[User:Ohyeahcrucz|<span style="text-shadow:blue 0px 0px 0px;font-size:13px;font-family: Tf2 Build"><font color="blue">Ohyeahcrucz]]</font></span>  <span style="font-size:10px;font-weight:bold;font-family: helvetica"><font color="black"><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User_talk:Ohyeahcrucz|T]]<nowiki>][</nowiki>[[Special:Contributions/Ohyeahcrucz|C]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></font></span> 08:08, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 
::I added the following, but it was quickly removed by someone due to being "speculation", though I'm fairly certain of it all. Currently trying to contact Hideous or Pie_Tony about what they had in mind when designing the ammo belt.
 
 
 
* The bullets seen wrapped around the band of the ''Western Wear'' appear similar to the real-world 9mm caliber, or .22 LR bullet. However, .22 LR are typically used for [[Sniper Rifle|rifles]], or [[Revolver|revolvers]], while 9mm caliber bullets are made for [[Lugermorph|Luger]] and [[Pistol|Parabellum]] hand gun cartridges. 
 
[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 11:30, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
Contacted the creator of the hat via Facepunch, asking whether or not the bullets had any real-world counterpart or base for their design and got this response back.
 
http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/f/f4/User_SilverHammer_thatsall.PNG
 
So I'm about to edit the page with something along the lines of
 
 
 
*While the creator of the hat had no particular real-life counterpart in mind while designing the bullets on the belt worn around the hat, they bear resemblance to standard 9 or 11mm pistol bullets.
 
 
 
Does that looks alright? [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 22:03, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Errors in console relating to this hat? ==
 
 
 
Yeah, so I just received a whole lot of error spam upon connecting to my server:
 
 
 
* <code>No such variable "$colortint_tmp" for material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_red"</code>
 
* <code>Error: Material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_red" : proxy "ItemTintColor" unable to initialize!</code>
 
 
 
* <code>No such variable "$colortint_tmp" for material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_red"</code>
 
* <code>Error: Material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_red" : proxy "SelectFirstIfNonZero" unable to initialize!</code>
 
 
 
* <code>No such variable "$colortint_tmp" for material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_blue"</code>
 
* <code>Error: Material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_blue" : proxy "ItemTintColor" unable to initialize!</code>
 
 
 
* <code>No such variable "$colortint_tmp" for material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_blue"</code>
 
* <code>Error: Material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_blue" : proxy "SelectFirstIfNonZero" unable to initialize!</code>
 
 
 
What's this all about? [[User:404 User Not Found|404 User Not Found]] 16:51, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
::Actually, I just checked again and also had:
 
 
 
* <code>Performance warning: Merge with 'weapons\w_models\w_arrow.mdl'. Mark bone 'root' in model 'buildables\sentry2_heavy.mdl' as being used by bone merge in the .qc!</code>
 
* <code>Performance warning: Merge with 'weapons\w_models\w_arrow.mdl'. Mark bone 'root' in model 'buildables\sentry2.mdl' as being used by bone merge in the .qc!</code>
 
* <code>Performance warning: Merge with 'weapons\w_models\w_arrow.mdl'. Mark bone 'root' in model 'buildables\sentry3_heavy.mdl' as being used by bone merge in the .qc!</code>
 
 
 
...Weird. [[User:404 User Not Found|404 User Not Found]] 16:54, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
==Stub?==
 
I don't think this article is a stub. I just don't think that there is really much to say about it, like the [[Magnificent Mongolian]]. [[File:Painted_Vintage_Merryweather_7E7E7E.png|24px]][[User:Flamborsia|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Fyahweather'''</u></big></tt></font></span>]] 06:00, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Regarding original name ==
 
 
 
So since it required a citation apparently, I went ahead and dug up my old post from when I first created the hat:
 
 
 
http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1067481-The-People-s-TF2-Emporium?p=28791201&viewfull=1#post28791201
 
 
 
In it is this image, which was used as a promo to release the mod version:
 
 
 
http://i.imgur.com/ZcN3P.png
 
 
 
There you can also see the original description, which was later improved by Valve. --[[User:Hideous|Hideous]] 02:21, 1 July 2011 (PDT)
 
::Damn, you're alot faster than I. I've been looking for that through all the old TF2 Emporiums and couldn't find it :P [[User:404 User Not Found|404 User Not Found]] 04:51, 1 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:::To be fair, it was in my personal history of posts. --[[User:Hideous|Hideous]] 02:33, 2 July 2011 (PDT)
 

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