Talk:Western Wear

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I don't see how it's steampunk. Maybe I'm just missing something. Leaderboard class soldier.pngJust a Gigolo - (talk) 07:04, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't comprehend that either. Steampunk? The only thing that reminds me vaguely of it is the bullet belt. Probably useless, but I'll keep it in case. Painted Vintage Merryweather 7E7E7E.pngFyahweather 07:18, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
I remember seeing it on the Polycount thread, and I remember seeing cogs attached to it. The dirty brown look combined with the cogs and bullet belt is what gives it a steampunk feeling overall. At least, it does for me and I am pretty sure I'm not the only one. Just my two cents. Killicon train.png Hefaistus - talk 11:18, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Sup guys, Hideous here - I modeled the hat and it is not (intentionally) a steampunk hat. The cog was added for style/more relevance to the Engineer. --Hideous 11:24, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for clearing that up, mate. Congratulations, by the way, for getting the hat into the game. It looks fantastic. Killicon train.png Hefaistus - talk 11:33, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
I'll second that thanks. I can't wait until I craft one. Leaderboard class soldier.pngJust a Gigolo - (talk) 11:35, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Don't forget to add Pie_Tony to the contributed by thing, he's the guy that made the texture. I don't know how this wiki business works entirely, so you do it :D --Hideous 11:37, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Danke. Brilliant hat by the way. The only problem with it is the bullet belt. The belt only uses 35% of the bullets. Painted Vintage Merryweather 7E7E7E.pngFyahweather 13:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Are you talking about the shotgun ammo? Because I am fairly certain that the bullets on the hat are not shotgun shells. Killicon train.png Hefaistus - talk 14:59, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
He's making a Portal 2 joke. Remember the Turret Trailer? Leaderboard class soldier.pngJust a Gigolo - (talk) 11:04, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Because, remember folks. Only Aperture Science uses ALL of the bullet. And where do they get the bullets from?
"Who touched Sasha? WHO TOUCHED MY GUN?" Painted Vintage Merryweather 7E7E7E.pngFyahweather 12:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Seriously? I missed that joke? Bloody hell, I'm an idiot. Please excuse me for a minute while I headdesk at my own ineptitude. Killicon train.png Hefaistus - talk 12:52, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Don't feel bad, that joke went over my head for quite a while. Leaderboard class soldier.pngJust a Gigolo - (talk) 15:19, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Belt Buckle?

You guys do know that is a Spur.Right? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Awesomesauce (talk) • (contribs) 2011-05-08T18:15:01

"The cog..."
"The cog..."
"The cog..."
"The cog..."
It's right above, for the love of mud. maggosh 22:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Spurs are sharp. Also, what Maggosh said. Leaderboard class soldier.pngJust a Gigolo - (talk) 14:28, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
It's a cog. – Smashman (talk) 14:32, 9 May 2011 (UTC)


I'm not an expert on ammunition, but can anyone tell what caliber those bullets are? —GeminiViRiS User GeminiViRiS Doubleface.jpg Talk · Contribs 08:06, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm guessing it's the same caliber as the Pistol's boolets.  – User Ohyeahcrucz Sig.png Ohyeahcrucz [T][C] 08:08, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
I added the following, but it was quickly removed by someone due to being "speculation", though I'm fairly certain of it all. Currently trying to contact Hideous or Pie_Tony about what they had in mind when designing the ammo belt.
  • The bullets seen wrapped around the band of the Western Wear appear similar to the real-world 9mm caliber, or .22 LR bullet. However, .22 LR are typically used for rifles, or revolvers, while 9mm caliber bullets are made for Luger and Parabellum hand gun cartridges.

SilverHammer 11:30, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Contacted the creator of the hat via Facepunch, asking whether or not the bullets had any real-world counterpart or base for their design and got this response back. User_SilverHammer_thatsall.PNG So I'm about to edit the page with something along the lines of

  • While the creator of the hat had no particular real-life counterpart in mind while designing the bullets on the belt worn around the hat, they bear resemblance to standard 9 or 11mm pistol bullets.

Does that looks alright? SilverHammer 22:03, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Errors in console relating to this hat?

Yeah, so I just received a whole lot of error spam upon connecting to my server:

  • No such variable "$colortint_tmp" for material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_red"
  • Error: Material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_red" : proxy "ItemTintColor" unable to initialize!
  • No such variable "$colortint_tmp" for material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_red"
  • Error: Material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_red" : proxy "SelectFirstIfNonZero" unable to initialize!
  • No such variable "$colortint_tmp" for material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_blue"
  • Error: Material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_blue" : proxy "ItemTintColor" unable to initialize!
  • No such variable "$colortint_tmp" for material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_blue"
  • Error: Material "models/player/items/engineer/engineer_top_hat_blue" : proxy "SelectFirstIfNonZero" unable to initialize!

What's this all about? 404 User Not Found 16:51, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I just checked again and also had:
  • Performance warning: Merge with 'weapons\w_models\w_arrow.mdl'. Mark bone 'root' in model 'buildables\sentry2_heavy.mdl' as being used by bone merge in the .qc!
  • Performance warning: Merge with 'weapons\w_models\w_arrow.mdl'. Mark bone 'root' in model 'buildables\sentry2.mdl' as being used by bone merge in the .qc!
  • Performance warning: Merge with 'weapons\w_models\w_arrow.mdl'. Mark bone 'root' in model 'buildables\sentry3_heavy.mdl' as being used by bone merge in the .qc!

...Weird. 404 User Not Found 16:54, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


I don't think this article is a stub. I just don't think that there is really much to say about it, like the Magnificent Mongolian. Painted Vintage Merryweather 7E7E7E.pngFyahweather 06:00, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Regarding original name

So since it required a citation apparently, I went ahead and dug up my old post from when I first created the hat:

In it is this image, which was used as a promo to release the mod version:


There you can also see the original description, which was later improved by Valve. --Hideous 02:21, 1 July 2011 (PDT)

Damn, you're alot faster than I. I've been looking for that through all the old TF2 Emporiums and couldn't find it :P 404 User Not Found 04:51, 1 July 2011 (PDT)
To be fair, it was in my personal history of posts. --Hideous 02:33, 2 July 2011 (PDT)
Please upload the file to the Wiki, put it on the article gallery-style and remove the [citation needed] point. c: SilverHammer 22:11, 3 July 2011 (PDT)

Type of Hat

It's really more of a Coachmans Hat than a top hat, although they're pretty similar, is it worth changing? Whaaambulance (talk) 16:14, 28 November 2013 (PST)