Talk:Item timeline
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November 19, 2010
Team spirit and Companion Cube pins were also added. -= M-NINJA 
=- 20:32, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Done. seb26 [talk] 20:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Should unreleased items really be listed? Because then we'd need to include the Jag and all that stuff. --CruelCow (talk) 22:45, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Technically, the Jag is still being planned to be released once attributes are applied to it. With that said, if it is added, would it remain in the timeline when its model was put in the game files, or when it was made obtainable?
- Should unreleased items really be listed? Because then we'd need to include the Jag and all that stuff. --CruelCow (talk) 22:45, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
119th Update
Mercenary , Soldier of Fortune and Grizzled Veteran were added. Later, in May 5, 2010 Patch, Primeval Warrior was added. Mozgoed 09:31, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Mann-Co update
Since the "Team Sprit" tool is added, should all other tools + Mann Co. Supply Crate be added? BLUH 09:53, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
No thanks I originally created the page with just Weapons, Hats and Misc items. I expect democracy will win out and add Tools, etc. My only concern is the size of the page. So, i'll start the voting with a NO. But, wiki is for everyone, what do others think? (Please notice i have not undone the "teamspirit" entry before you cast stones) Nooch 17:07, 2 December 2010 (UTC)- Keep I was actually in the middle of adding the tools, like paint cans. They are technically items, I see no reason for their exclusion. The page is long as it is, a couple more items won't make a huge difference. —
Moussekateer·talk 17:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC) - Keep What Moussekateer said. Also, Golden Wrench that isn't even obtainable is there, i don't see why the tools can't be in, with name tags and stuff. --
Swordz (talk | contribs) 17:12, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Crit-A-Cola
CaC was actually added the day before the 119th update, in the April 28th patch. I'm not skilled enough in table modifications to fix it, but it should be fixed. Balladofwindfishes 18:53, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Done. Nooch 19:07, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Alternative table restyling
| Class | Item Type | Item Icon | Item Name | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| April 29, 2008 — The Gold Rush Update | ||||
 Medic |
Weapon | 
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Blutsauger | Also included in this update:
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Kritzkrieg | |||
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Übersaw | |||
| June 19, 2008 — The Pyro Update | ||||
 Pyro |
Weapon | 
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Backburner | Also included in this update:
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Flare Gun | |||
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Axtinguisher | |||
| August 19, 2008 — A Heavy Update | ||||
 Heavy |
Weapon | 
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Natascha | Also included in this update:
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Sandvich | |||
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Killing Gloves of Boxing | |||
Thoughts?--Kid Of The Century 16:44, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
Approve I would support this reorganization. For discussion, i'd prefer a variation slightly less complicated. Maybe just change Class field to Group field that could indicate either class or item type?
| Group | Item Icon | Item Name | Notes | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| April 29, 2008 — The Gold Rush Update | ||||
| Medic |
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Blutsauger | Also included in this update:
| |
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Kritzkrieg | |||
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Übersaw | |||
| June 19, 2008 — The Pyro Update | ||||
| Pyro |
|
Backburner | Also included in this update:
| |
|
|
Flare Gun | |||
|
|
Axtinguisher | |||
| August 19, 2008 — A Heavy Update | ||||
| Heavy |
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Natascha | Also included in this update:
| |
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Sandvich | |||
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Killing Gloves of Boxing | |||
- Anyone else have opinions about these changes? Nooch 18:23, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
- For better readability, I wouldn't mix the classes with Item type. Maybe the best thing is scrapping the Item Type info entirely, and use you last vesion.--Kid Of The Century 01:46, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Do the first version with the item types, I like it a lot. seb26 [talk] 04:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Killing Floor Promotion
Should the title of the Foster's Facade and Stockbroker's Scarf section be "Killing Floor Promotion" or whatnot, in the same vein as the Poker Night Promotional update that released the Dealer's Visor? --Fragment of Nothing 03:27, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
- Done Nooch 03:38, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Blank "Also Included in This Update" sections
| Group | Item Icon | Item Name | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| September 02, 2009 — Team Fortress 2 update | |||
| Hats | 
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Cheater's Lament | Also included in this update:
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Such as the above. It doesn't look very nice, especially since there's even a bullet point there with nothing following. Perhaps we could add "nothing" after the bullet? I also notice that some entries for promo items and the like have a small blurb relevant to it (e.g. "Added Bill's Hat for players who pre-ordered Left 4 Dead 2"), while others are blank, so I'll go through and add that kind of simple information to fill in some of the blanks. Zarokima 13:31, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
- To be honest, I almost regret to have added facts not tied to items (maps, gamemodes). So, yes, feel free to update the notes with appropriate facts.--Kid Of The Century 17:38, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
"In total" section
I think it'd be cool to have an extra list in the 'Notes' cell for a summary of what was released in the particular update, like for example, the Sniper v. Spy update, it would look like this:
In total:
Obviously there's a point where it becomes stupid to list this for some of the smaller patches, however, for the larger ones that can be quite long I think a summary would suit. What do people think? seb26 [talk] 20:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Stock Items
Seeing as they're the only items in the game that aren't included here, couldn't the stock weapons appear as well? They could have a short section at the beginning where they are grouped together, labeled "Stock Weapons", their release date would be "Initial Release" and we could be done with it? Stbeecher 19:37, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Section headers per update
Being rather long, this page can become quite hard to navigate. I've prepared a draft here which I propose to use. The changes include attaching a subheader tag to each of the title rows, forcing them to appear in the table of contents. This makes it a lot easier to navigate to a specific update and to locate the latest update, as well. What do people think? seb26 [talk] 04:50, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
- Support - Needs it badly. —Moussekateer·talk 04:52, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Add maps
Right now, mostly all maps are listed in the note field. However, for example the last mappack didn't come with any items so those maps don't show up. IMHO it would only be consequential if we also include maps in the list and rename this to release timeline. --CruelCow (talk) 12:34, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps remove maps from this one, and keep it items only and create another named Feature timeline which also lists things such as Hauling of Buildings etc.? – Smashman (talk) 12:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Notes weirdness
For notes regarding promo items, the sections that go
"Also included in this update: Added Bill's Hat for players who pre-purchased Left 4 Dead 2"
sound awkward when said item is listed right before it.
Perhaps some better wording is in order? Maybe something to the effect of:
"Promotional items: a, b, c are awarded to players who purchase x/do y." Clank 02:10, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
Spine-Chilling Skull 2011
There are differing opinions about Spine-Chilling Skull 2011. I attempted adding the 3 skull styles, but M-NINJA disapproved. What is the community's opinion?
| Styles | ||||||||||
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| Spine-Tingling | Spine-Cooling | Spine-Twisting | ||||||||
- No thanks - Undo edit by Nooch "those are styles" M-NINJA
- Approve - I want to see all 3 styles for reference.Nooch 05:22, 6 November 2011 (PST)
Nope.avi - The different styles are all on the Spine-Chilling Skull 2011 page, they don't need to be here. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 09:42, 6 November 2011 (PST)- Non The item added was the Spine-Chilling Skull 2011, the others are styles, they aren't new items. We have another page for this. It's better to keep everything in it'S rightful place. Tturbo
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The No's have spoken! Crafted - Spine-Chilling Skull 2011 don't have styles much like a Gibus. Also, Bounty Hat, Treasure Hat, and Hat of Undeniable Wealth And Respect are similiar too. Currently, the timeline does include all the Gibus and Treasure Hats. I've said my peace, majority rules! Nooch 09:19, 11 November 2011 (PST)
