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Don't be so hard on him, especially if you're talking about "non-sense"; to say it simply, practice what you preach. He was only trying to improve the pages, and telling him that what he added is nonsense is both untrue and hurtful. Please be mindful of what you say. rZ 10:46, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

Another didn't do that before, and I didn't see the point about his edit. So if you think it makes him hurtful, I'll unwatch some edit and let people do anything they want next time. Hinaomi 10:52, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

You obviously don't understand my point. Next time, Template:W, and don't have personal outbursts against editors. rZ 10:54, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

Umm, but still think his edit is non-sense. Anyway, I'll remove some bad word in that talk. Hinaomi 10:56, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

For the love of everything that is good and well stop saying "non-sense". It's not a word and nobody understands what you mean. The edit was fine and was in good faith, calling it nonsense assumes bad faith. rZ 10:58, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

 Done remove those bad word. And I don't have much time for now (Need to do homework) Hinaomi 11:00, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

Stop reverting pages based on your personal opinion #2

I would like to join my fellow wikians to ask you to stop making reverts based on your opinion. I reported a serious bug with the dead ringer that breaks DR gameplay and you decide to revert it without comment or discussion. We are on the same team here --Wennerj 11:01, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

So that's "really" need to "have a new section"? And I think it isn't bug, but it's mechanic.

And next time, don't use same topic as old topic. Please create the new one. Hinaomi 11:14, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

Kill taunt

Can you please explain why you the words you are removing describing kill taunts are unnecessary? Thanks. -- Pilk ^(talk) 03:26, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Because I want to make same at all page. So make it simple is easier. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 03:28, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Including the word "kill" is important. You are forcing the reader to click the link to understand that the taunt can kill people. By making it "consistent" you are making it make less sense. -- Pilk ^(talk) 03:32, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

I'll re-add "kill" after "taunt" later. Anyway, thanks for response. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 03:33, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Please stop making the edits until we finish discussing it. The change you just made to Eyelander is incorrect too. "Taunt kill" is not as correct as "kill taunt". The latter makes it more clear that the taunt does not always kill. -- Pilk ^(talk) 03:36, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Your change to Rainblower removes important information about the effects of the taunt in and out of Pyroland. Stop making changes that "improve consistency" that also remove important information. -- Pilk ^(talk) 03:38, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Alright, I'll revert my edits back and start again. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 03:42, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Hostility

Regardless of whether you are right or wrong, stop being so hostile.

There are better ways to say "are your eyes nearly close?" Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 09:40, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Fast type, but still same meaning. Just grammar wrong. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 09:41, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

He is not talking about your English, he was talking about how hostile you were being. Stop being hostile. I'm not asking you to, I'm telling you to. rZ 09:43, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

I was answer second question, Rz.

And about hostile, if he didn't edit like this, this and this. So I think he should read guideline first. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 09:46, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

1. Read The Goonies on Wikipedia. First three words are an explanation. Also, no offense, but I don't know if you should be going on me about correcting grammar. 2. There was nothing wrong with that edit. 3. That was my mistake. It doesn't matter which question you were answering, neither of them referenced your English. I am only asking you to not be so hostile. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 09:53, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Just because he makes edits that you believe are incorrect doesn't mean he's less of a human being than you are. Treat others with respect. This is the second time I've told you to assume good faith. Don't push a third time. rZ 09:56, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

I'm not good at English because Thai is my mother language, not English. Sorry for my bad, and sometimes I don't know what word should need to use. Please understand. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 10:01, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Unintended hostility is still hostility. If you are aware of a problem you should try your best to fix it. Taking a break while you learn more English is a good solution. rZ 10:03, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Sorry, but can't. I don't have enough time to do like that because my reason about family. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 10:06, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Hi Hinaomi. While your efforts to patrol edits are appreciated, it's been noticed that some of your undo summaries come off as a little bit hostile. I understand that English isn't your mother tongue, so I think it's best if you generally avoid making comments in the undo summary. Instead, I suggest you simply put a link to the style guide or trivia guidelines or whatever else may be appropriate to the edit. That way, we can avoid any miscommunication. Thanks. i-ghost 10:09, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Thanks for the solution. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 10:10, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Link

Where did Valve say the Holy Mackerel is a unique weapon? o_o Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 10:55, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

I saw on Balladofwindfishes's reason, ask him is better than ask me. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 11:29, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

Bazooka

Hi. Why you deleted my edit? 99% of weapons have fixed level so its interesting to add info about the levels. --Genuine GAL 04:53, 13 July 2012 (PDT)

If it still exist in that page, Lollichop, Unarmed Combat and Wanga Prick should have that too. But they didn't because they were remove before. That's why I removed it. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 05:42, 13 July 2012 (PDT)

Wow! I didnt know that UC and WP has random levels too! SO! Thats why we must add this to trivia (or another section) for all of those 4 weapons. Ill do it ok? --Genuine GAL 06:43, 13 July 2012 (PDT)

I said "they were remove before". Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 07:10, 13 July 2012 (PDT)

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Unarmed Combat

Hey use to read first my edit. --Genuine GAL 14:59, 14 July 2012 (PDT)

That was there and got removed before, that's why I remove Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 16:31, 14 July 2012 (PDT)

What? Look at Wingstick! --Genuine GAL 21:05, 14 July 2012 (PDT)

Also it fit the trivia guidelines. Like the Wingstick. Stop delete now. --Genuine GAL 21:06, 14 July 2012 (PDT)

Both of you stop. I saw the recent changes page, and it's clearly an edit war. Talk it out on IRC or something and come to a compromise. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 23:15, 14 July 2012 (PDT)

This same as your edit and was removed before. And for Mr. Vinderack, It's not a bug (not removed by me) so I'll remove this anyway and on Wingstick page too. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 00:50, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

Hey what are you doing????? Stop it! Why this is not a bug? Move it to trivia then. Alos its is interesting information so it fits the trivia guidelines. Stop it i say again. --Genuine GAL 05:46, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

Now rZ change the infobox to fit not show level now. If I see you add it again, remove anyway. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 08:17, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

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Not showing levels as a bug

Hi, I know this discussion was ended one block up, but I re-added all of them and I'd like to explain why they are bugs. The reason the levels don't show up is because they are missing the description strings in tf_english. The items are properly set up for the levels to appear in the schema, but are missing strings. As with the Backwards Ballcap and Texas Half Pants, missing strings are very much bugs, and need to be listed. The game is trying to show the levels, not seeing a proper localization for them, and then just forgetting it. Thanks! Balladofwindfishes 17:37, 22 July 2012 (PDT)

If you have source like this, you can add and I'll forget about missing level. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 20:38, 22 July 2012 (PDT)

Unnecessary edits

Hinaomi, you are repeatedly making unnecessary changes. These changes are made worse because you are not an advanced enough English speaker to understand the different phrasing and word order in some sentences. I understand you are just trying to help but please try to avoid these needless changes. -- Pilk ^(talk) 07:01, 23 July 2012 (PDT)

Yeah, I'll careful about that. But sometimes those fault weren't from me, please do not think I'm only person who create fault. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 07:07, 23 July 2012 (PDT)

Hey

Why did you delete the gunslinger when I typed it in the wrenches section of "See also"? The gunslinger is literally a wrench since you can build dispensers, sentries, teleporter entries and exits. In my opinion the Gunslinger qualifies as a wrench, so you should leave it alone after I re-enter it. TheKitchenEditor 07:41, 27 July 2012 (PDT)

Mechanic hand doesn't same as Wrench. I use animations, models, point to use, etc. to judge what weapon need to include in see also. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 07:43, 27 July 2012 (PDT)

Oh look, AGAIN. You know the Cow Mangler qualifies as a rocket launcher considering that it's huge and bulky plus that it shoots projectiles? You can rocket jump with it, you can shoot projectiles with it, so I have no idea what the Cow Mangler 5000 can't do what the Rocket launcher can do. TheKitchenEditor 08:00, 27 July 2012 (PDT)

Laser =/= Rocket Launcher and its shape isn't look like Rocket Launcher, unique reload animation, have charge shot ability. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 08:03, 27 July 2012 (PDT)

Well its Soldier's primary weapon, and in his primary slot he wields Rocket Launchers. I personally think the Cow Mangler 5000 is a rocket launcher. Sure, it is different from his usual rocket launchers but still... — The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheKitchenEditor (talk) • (contributions)

It has charge shot alt-fire, also concept different from another Rocket Launcher (Retro Future, not like another one) Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 08:23, 27 July 2012 (PDT)

Well, many players consider the Cow mangler 5000 a Rocket Launcher. Just go ahead and type it on youtube, google, or your average search engine. I know a lot of people who call it a rocket launcher and I've rarely even heard of anyone calling it a lazer gun. Sure, it is a lazer gun but it resembles features of your average rocket launcher such as rocket jumping, shooting projectiles and plus damaging the enemy. The closest thing to a lazer gun is the Righteous Bison because it "Ricochets" through the enemy. TheKitchenEditor 08:31, 27 July 2012 (PDT)

Youtube isn't the best to find source and also its mechanic doesn't have any same as rocket launcher. (unique reload, unlimited ammo, firing laser, alt-fir ability, concept) These all aren't enough? If you will said "Why Beggar's Bazooga include in See Also?", because it fires Rocket and its shape look close Rocket Launcher more than Cow Mangler 5000. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 08:35, 27 July 2012 (PDT)

Unused versus Bug sounds for Original and Machina

The reloading sounds are set up to work for both the Original and Machina. They're only unused in the sense they don't actually work. Both are set up properly (or... well I guess not properly, but they made a good attempt), they just don't work for whatever reason. This makes them a bug, rather than unused content. Balladofwindfishes 09:53, 1 August 2012 (PDT)

ok, I thought those sound don't work because valve didn't add it. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 16:31, 1 August 2012 (PDT)

Huo Long Heatmaker Trivia

Hi, I see you are removing the underwater trivia, may I ask you why? I just did a screenshot though. http://steamcommunity.com/id/Frozen_Fire_The_Elementalist/screenshot/577837481867017314 Frozen Fire 06:30, 4 August 2012 (PDT)

Huh, but I don't think it should be trivia because Fire must not work underwater. Put in Bug section is better. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 08:53, 4 August 2012 (PDT)

Wikichievement

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Helping Hand Help other users to improve the Team Fortress Wiki with constant tips and coordination.	Karmacharger	Wikichievement unlocked! Borrowed me Red-Tape Recorder for The demonstration Video :3

About the Cow Mangler 5000

I was just wondering about your decision to remove the Cow Mangler 5000 bug that I added (reflected projectiles become crits rather than mini-crits) on the grounds that it is a mechanic and not a bug. I believe it should be considered a bug because it violates two mechanics. First, all reflected projectiles are supposed to be mini-crits; the Cow Mangler 5000 projectiles becoming crits clearly violates that mechanic. Second, the Cow Mangler 5000 is not supposed to be capable of being crit-boosted; this bug is a clear violation of that mechanic. I would like to know your reasoning for considering it a mechanic. CyclopsDragon 13:21, 5 August 2012 (PDT)

Because it was too overpowered before. The reflect crits is another nerf thing that Valve actually add but it didn't enough so Valve added more nerf like 5% slower reload times, Can't be crit-boosted and 10% damage penalty. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 13:30, 5 August 2012 (PDT)

That's understandable, but then why doesn't it appear in the tooltip or in any of the patch notes? If it was an intended mechanic, then surely it would be shown somewhere. CyclopsDragon 21:10, 5 August 2012 (PDT)

Some attribute are hidden, like original fire from center. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 22:17, 5 August 2012 (PDT)

True, but that's a much more minor attribute than this. And besides, firing from the center is implied by the weapon's viewmodel. CyclopsDragon 17:10, 6 August 2012 (PDT)

Or 20% damage to building in Pomson 6000, It's one of another hidden attribute. And about "why doesn't it appear in the tooltip or in any of the patch notes?". About patch note, nope because it reflect as crit since it added to the game. And toltips, it's in Damage and Function Times. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 17:28, 6 August 2012 (PDT)

Bad edits?

You've recently "warned" me to not make any "bad edits". That is completely irrelevant since all I've done was constructive and necessary for some articles. How on earth can you define those as "bad edits"?

In some pages like Backwards Ballcap, you added unnecessary part. And some of your edits are terrible. Also, sign you comment when in talk page using ~~~~ before post. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 18:14, 9 August 2012 (PDT)

RE: Help!

But of course! I'll get right on it for you now ^^ 17:29, 11 August 2012 (PDT)

Don't Get Me Wrong....

There is in no way at all I am trying to be rude about this, but speculation has been added that has not been removed on actual pages, like Grey Mann's page having a "theory" that the man in the torn middle is him. A likely theory, but still, that's speculation. How is it that one thing like that goes unnoticed, but when a discussion speculation comes into play it's a whole different story? FenixChief 12:23, 15 August 2012 (PDT)

Your words look like suggestions/advice more than discussion. That's why I told you to talk at Steam Users' Forum. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 12:46, 15 August 2012 (PDT)

I wasn't really trying to suggest, really adding more of a theory, so to speak. I've done this before during the Uber Update concerning The Family Business, and I was never addressed as so. FenixChief 13:00, 15 August 2012 (PDT)

Could we bring this Talk over to my Talk page? I'd like for this to be more within my perimeters and not a burden on your page. FenixChief 14:13, 15 August 2012 (PDT)

Red Tape Recorder bug

You reverted me in this edit, and I don't want to start an edit war, so I feel like I should explain where I'm coming from. The normal Sapper does damage to the buildings it's placed on, whereas the Red Tape Recorder does not—it specifically has a "-100% Sapper Damage Penalty" attribute, so a crit boost would have no effect on it. If it did glow when crit boosted, that would be a bug. Not glowing is the expected behaviour of a weapon that cannot crit. dendodge 16:47, 20 August 2012 (PDT)