Talk:Your Eternal Reward

youtube

Before the page is added to the mainspace, I'd like to upload a shorter clip that only shows the relevant part. --Piemanmoo 02:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I've added a clip that shows YER from the point of view of the enemy team. I think this is a much better clip then the current one. --ShunyValdez 02:56, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

That video is very helpful, thank you. I didn't realize how quick the disguise really is. --Firestorm 15:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

To Test

• Disguise time (instant?)  Done
• Make video of backstab and disguise  Done
• Enemies drop weapons for ammo?  Not Done

bugs

Please add any found bugs with a * in front of it

• Cannot switch disguise weapon
• Backstab on an invincible enemy (Bonked, Ubercharged, ect) allows disguise
• Animation seems glitched
• Backstabbing while holing the intel allows you to be disguised without dropping it
• The enemy team receives a kill notification when you backstab with this weapon

ive noticed you cant switch your disguised weapon while using this knife. im not sure where to put this in the article, so ill write it here for someone else to add --Mewizkuit 07:48, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

That's not a bug, it's one of the negative attributes of the knife. You disguise as the person you kill when you kill them.-RJ 09:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

• Plus backstabs on Razorback Snipers allows you to disguise as one Sam-1-14 19:55, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

no, you dont seem to understand what im saying normally when you're disguised, you can switch what weapon your disguise is holding by pressing quick disguise after disguised with the new knife, you are unable to do this i can understand that this glitch is obviously derived from the fact that you cant use the disguise-kit, but i still think switching your disguised weapon should be allowed --Mewizkuit 09:37, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure that's a bug, merely an undesired down-side. But yes, email it to Robin. I hope they fix it.  – Smashman _(talk) 09:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that seems like a bug to me. --Firestorm 14:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I was just using that knife and backstabed a scout who was using bonk...and I got a disguise from him but he was still alive.Im not sure if its supposed to be like this but we should add that to the article. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by kexbiti (talk) • contribs)

Kexbiti, please sign all your comments with ~~~~. I'll add that note to the page. --Firestorm 15:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

ive tried backstabbing an uber enemy to see if it had the same effect. as expected, it did. i wonder if this is a glitch or if it was intentional? --Mewizkuit 18:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Mewiz, please use one extra colon when replying to a message above your own comment. To clarify, if you backstab an ubered pyro, you disguise as that pyro, even though he doesn't die? --Firestorm 18:13, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

sorry, i was replying to the message above yours, so i thought using one colon more than that one seemed like a more logical approach. but yes, that is how it works. i tried it on an ubercharged medic, but im sure it works the same way with other classes. --Mewizkuit 23:32, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

ive noticed that quite often, the swing animation for the knife doesnt show even though the sound plays (i dont know if it shows (or to be more accurate, doesnt show) for other players, but for the player swinging the knife its like this). this seems to be more common when you are actually hitting something with the knife. i dont know if this also happens when you backstab; i never bothered to pay attention. someone might want to look into that. --Mewizkuit 17:36, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, the first-person animation is a bit weird. --Firestorm 17:39, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

with this knife equipped, you can be disguised while holding intel. just make the backstab after you take the intel and you will become disguised without losing it. the intel is still shown on your back to opposing players, though, so its not all that useful. still, its probably a glitch --Mewizkuit 13:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

The enemy team receives a kill notification when you backstab with this weapon. Robin Walker said that this is a bug and should be fixed soon. I saw the email at the steam forum. --ShunyValdez 02:41, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm removing this from the trivia. It's been ~6 minor updates since this was posted and its still not fixed. I'm starting to doubt the email but its also possible that Valve decided its overpowered without the notification. We can put it back once its officially in-game. ShunyValdez 03:55, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

another problem ive noticed is that despite being called a silent killer, the spy isnt very silent when killing with it he will still voice things like "oh dear, ive made quite a mess" after backstabbing, and these things can be heard by players on the opposing team that are near enough, so it makes it obvious that there is a spy around. --Mewizkuit 06:44, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

i dont know if this is a glitch with this knife or with the game in general, but standing in certain spots causes the knife to turn entirely grey in the first person, removing all team color from it. i say this might not be only a glitch with the knife because it seems to have something to do with lighting. can anyone confirm other weapons this happens with? --Mewizkuit 23:03, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

With Friendly Fire On

Is this the only way to disguise as a friendly? (nanosheep_inc) 04:17, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

You cannot backstab teammates with Friendly fire on --Firestorm 03:08, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Aladdin scene from Trivia section

Could someone who has watched the movie tell me when is that scene played? I need to watch just that scene to hear the same line in Polish so I can retrieve the name (as it's referenced from that scene). I don't want to watch the whole movie, I don't have time. Uzikus 10:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Right after Aladdin has picked up the lamp and the cave starts to collapse. They reach the entrance barely and he hands the lamp to Jafar in disguise (That old man is a Spy!). The scene plays right after that as soon as Jafar grabs Aladdin's arm and you hear 'what are you doing?' or something to that extent.--Focusknock 10:16, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

I actually meant the exact time of the scene, but I found it anyway. Cheers. Uzikus 10:19, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Medics and ER

If I backstab someone being healed by a medic with the ER, does the medic automatically heal me, or does the healing stop and the medic has to manually start healing me again? Thunder9092 00:38, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

the heal beam will automatically be transferred to you, so no the medic doesnt have to start manually healing you again. --Mewizkuit 07:15, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

okay thanks. It seemed like if that was not the case then it would be a very obvious way to find a spy and would make taking out medic-partners very hard. Thunder9092 17:22, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Arena Mode and Disguise Kit

Im just wondering about this: "Sometimes in Arena Gamemode, a Spy carrying Your Eternal Reward will recieve a Disguise Kit at the start of the round(the rate is 50% of all rounds)." wouldn't this be a bug, and shouldn't it say so somewhere? also wondering where the 50% came from as well Scatmanjohn 18:41, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

That requires testing, I'll remove it until proof is obtained --Firestorm 18:42, 13 October 2010 (UTC)