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| − | Good god, a strange weapons page! Hooray! [[User:Problem|Problem]] 10:17, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
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| − | Do taunt kills from the Sandman, Flare Gun, Eyelander, Knife and Conniver's Kunai add to their counters? [[User:Pwnator|Pwnator]] 01:54, 28 September 2011 (PDT)
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| − | I think there should be a note as to whether the counter carries over for weapons that are shared between multiple classes. For example, lets say I get 1000kills with the pistol on my engie, then I equip the pistol on my scout. does it maintain the counter? [[User:Nibelhim|Nibelhim]] 09:42, 28 September 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :I'm fairly certain it does. If you want, I can check. I have Strange Shotgun. I'll go do it now. --[[User:NobleSkull|NobleSkull]] :D - 10:09, 28 September 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::Got kill with Strange Shotgun and looked at it as Engineer. On all classes, it was 22, then 1 kill with it as Soldier, had 23 on Heavy, Engineer, Pyro and Soldier. --[[User:NobleSkull|NobleSkull]] :D - 10:17, 28 September 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Humiliation ==
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| − | Do kills during humiliation count? I haven't tested it yet; if someone knows it he should add the information. [[User:LeGenD`RaGe|LeGenD`RaGe]] 13:08, 13 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | : Humiliation kills count, but I think that's sort of a given since points are still awarded during Humiliation. [[File:User RagnarHomsar Userlink.png]] [[User:RagnarHomsar|RagnarHomsar]] 13:09, 13 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Notes section on counter types. ==
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| − | This section is already ugly, and is only going to continue to get worse as Valve adds more counters. I propose this section be removed in place of listing the counters attached on the availability list. ~ '''[[User:Ath|Ath]]''' ([[User_talk:Ath|talk]]) 08:55, 19 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == 10 000 kills? ==
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| − | I notice there is no information about the final rank, so does that mean that nobody who comes here has reached it or are we not allowed to discuss it?
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| − | I'm almost half-way there with my Minigun.--[[User:Katz|Katz]] 13:54, 19 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :There is a rank defined at 10,000 kills I believe but it's not implemented. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 14:00, 19 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Strange Kritzkrieg ==
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| − | This ranks up on kill assists and not Ubers like the Medigun. Mine is at Midly-Menacing with 45 assists and 17 Ubers. I noticed when it ranked up without me deploying an Uber. Also the kill assist count is displayed on top, with the ubers below in parantheses. My backpack. http://www.tf2items.com/id/drblutengott
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| − | [[User:Dr. Blutengott|Dr. Blutengott]] 18:55, 19 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | Yes this is true. As a proud owner of Hale's own kritzkrieg, I know by heart that the levels are increased by the kill assists. [[User:Drsteiner12|Drsteiner12]] 02:29, 13 January 2013 (PST)
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| − | == No Longer Announced Via Alert ==
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| − | So apparently Strange Ranks are no longer 'alerted' on the server when someone reaches it. It just shows up in the chat-feed but not as an actual alert, is that right? Did the Manniversary Update do that? '''[[User talk:AustinAsDeidara|<font color="purple">☢</font>]] '''[[User:AustinAsDeidara|<font color="fuchsia"><big>Ѵєяɩτѧѕ</big></font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/AustinAsDiedara|<font color="purple">☢</font>]]''' 17:51, 22 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :Yes, yes it did. [[File:Painted_Vintage_Merryweather_803020.png|24px|link=User talk:Fyahweather]][[User:Flamborsia|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Fyahweather'''</u></big></tt></font></span>]] 21:24, 22 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Strange Holy Mackerel ==
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| − | The strange fish has a difference to the other strange weapons that I've seen - rather than saying 'Kills: xxx' it says 'Humiliations: xxx' (see [http://steamcommunity.com/id/imstillmartin/screenshot/594699991582102243?tab=public here] for screenshot). Should this be added to the trivia page for the Holy Mackerel? [[User:Avon|Avon]] 10:40, 24 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :Does it count a "humiliation" as a kill, or just a hit with the fish? '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 03:26, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::A kill, any situation that would cause a kill with the normal fish (i.e. triggering the dead ringer doesn't count). [[User:Avon|Avon]] 13:04, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :::Probably not notable then. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 15:07, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Strange Gunslinger ==
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| − | Does it rank up based on Mini Sentry kills instead of the actual Gunslinger melee? Trying to figure out why it's so bloody expensive. It has to be something more than "Only in the Salvaged Crate" [[User:Spy Master Kaze|Spy Master Kaze]] 21:36, 3 November 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :The other strange wrenches rank up on Sentry kills, so the Gunslinger probably does too. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 21:50, 3 November 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :: It has EVERYTHING to do with the crate it is in. Like the Jag, the rankings increase based on Sentry gun kills. Both, however, do track melee kills as well, but they do not progress the rank. [[User:SS2R|SS2R]] 23:41, 3 November 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Degreaser link is wrong. ==
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| − | The link in the table for strange items is wrong for the Degreaser. I tried to figure out how to change it but I can't seem to do it. It points to the backburner page currently. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Nagrom 17|Nagrom 17]]''' ([[User talk:Nagrom 17|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Nagrom 17|contribs]]) </small>
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| − | :Thanks for the heads up, it's now fixed. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sup>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sup> 04:05, 4 November 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Counter Description ==
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| − | What happened to the section explaining the counters which don't track kills (i.e. Medi Gun tracks Ubercharges, Wrench tracks Sentry kills)? That was genuinely useful information and should still be here. I also think it's worth mentioning that the Chargin' Targe only counts shield-bash kills and not melee kills using the targe's crit. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 05:27, 4 November 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :I removed it because it was reaching an absurd level of bloatedness. As I said in the edit summary, that sort of information should be listed in the availability table. Not in the article body. ~ '''[[User:Ath|Ath]]''' ([[User_talk:Ath|talk]]) 10:09, 4 November 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::This is still an issue - nowhere on the Wiki does it explain that some counters on Strange weapons don't track kills. I've noticed that the Strange Southern Hospitality tracks melee kills instead of Sentry kills like the other wrenches - this is pretty useful information to have. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 13:40, 2 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | ::I don't know how it was implemented before, but let's add this info back. It's absolutely significant, and the list just keeps getting more complicated as new items come out. Maybe it should be in a separate article with a list that looks like the [[Equip regions]] list. Thoughts? --[[User:Fashnek|Fashnek]] 13:43, 2 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | :::[http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=User:Cooper_Kid/Strange_counters&oldid=846053 That] doesn't really work. I've tried something else - re-arranging the current [[Template:Strange quality table|table]] to order the items in terms of their counter types. Take a look at what I've done [[User:Cooper Kid/Strange counters|here]]. I think there's potential, though obviously it will need to be shrunk down, and needs some colour and formatting work. I'm not really an expert on these kinds of tables and am struggling a bit, so any help would be appreciated. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 15:38, 4 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | ::::How about [[User:Alcarithemad/alt-strange|this]]? It's just a quick mockup I did, but it keeps the current table's formatting and adds the counter information in a fairly concise way. [[User:Alcarithemad|Alcarithemad]] 00:38, 11 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | :::::Great - much simpler and neater than mine at least. Can I suggest you make the main counter (i.e. the one that ranks the weapon up) in bold? <br>'''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 04:59, 11 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | ::::::I hadn't thought of that. It's much better than saying it in the footnote. I also don't know how to apply localization to it like the rest of the template has. [[User:Alcarithemad|Alcarithemad]] 05:17, 11 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | ::::::: I kind of disagree with Cooper's suggestion. As long as the rank progressing counter is listed first, it's quite simple see what is primary and what is secondary. [[User:SS2R|SS2R]] 05:28, 11 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | == Destructions ? ==
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| − | Do destructions of Engi's buildings add kills to s. revolver ? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Nouthghule|Nouthghule]]''' ([[User talk:Nouthghule|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Nouthghule|contribs]]) 19:57, 21 November 2011 (UTC)</small>
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| − | :I don't know what would make the Revolver different from other Strange weapons, but... I don't think so. I guess Strange weapons only track players killed, unless they have a secondary counter. {{n}} [[User:EpicEric|<span style="color:#5885A2;font-size:15px;font-family:'Trebuchet MS';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;"><b>Epic Eric</b></span>]] <small> ([[User talk:EpicEric|T]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/EpicEric|C]])</small> 12:04, 21 November 2011 (PST)
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| − | == Stranges being dropped? ==
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| − | I remember in a LONG time when I played TF2 that I have received my first strange (Eyelander) via a random drop! Is it possible that strange weapons can VERY rarely be dropped? [[User:Nephyte|Nephyte]] 12:02, 30 November 2011 (PST)
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| − | :{{c|Nope}} [[File:User_M-NINJA_Signature.png|link=User:M-NINJA]] 12:37, 30 November 2011 (PST)
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| − | ::Nope? Huh... that's strange... the only crates that I've opened are the coolers during the Summer Camp sale (only twice), and only out of them came hats. [[User:Nephyte|Nephyte]] 16:25, 30 November 2011 (PST)
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| − | :::Ridiculous. No one else has ever reported such a thing. You might have lagged out of the game and traded, or opened a crate. [[File:Painted_Vintage_Merryweather_803020.png|24px|link=User talk:Fyahweather]][[User:Flamborsia|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Fyahweather'''</u></big></tt></font></span>]] 16:34, 30 November 2011 (PST)
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| − | ::::Actually, I once got a second Strange GRU when I hadn't opened a crate to receive one. It seemed to have come from a random drop. [[User:NeoSlith|NeoSlith]] 09:25, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :::::Wasn't your backpack bugged? [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 09:27, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
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| − | : The same thing happened to me. TWICE. I suddenly found a strange weapon I'd never seen before in my backpack, complete with drop notification. And no, I did not trade for them and then mysteriously got amnesia. (I'm not really interested in stranges and if I uncrate one I usually sell it off unless it's a Medic or Pyro weapon. And I rarely if ever bother to open crates unless they're holiday crates. In fact, the number of stranges I got from crates I opened is five, and I can tell you exactly what they were: shovel, homewrecker, medigun, spycicle, stickybomb launcher.) I found the first one, a Strange Scotsman's Skullcutter, on Day 2 of my first tentative venturing out into public online servers, back during the Scream Fortress 2012 event. (Up to then I had only played in offline training modus.) Being a newbie and not knowing about the TF2 Wiki or trading sites then, I didn't know what the hell a strange was and traded it away for some unique weapons or a handful of voodoo-cursed items or something. So unfortunately I cannot show the Skullcutter as proof, and being a newbie I didn't make a screenshot of the find because I didn't know that what had happend should be impossible. :( The 2nd one was a Strange Neon Annihilator, also in 2012; that too I sold off because I already had a unique N.A. (dammit), but I think I got it either during Halloween or Smissmass. Perhaps that's a pattern? Might the Haunted Halloween Gifts that spawned on Ghostfort have anything to do with it? Because I managed to locate and grab a lot of those. Again, baseless speculation, sorry. But those two weapons, I sure as heck don't know where else they could have come from. --[[User:Knusperfrosch|Knusperfrosch]] 05:45, 9 March 2013 (PST)
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| − | :: Strange weapons do not drop and there is no such thing as a Strange Neon Annihilator. [[User:Eels|Eels]] 05:49, 9 March 2013 (PST)
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| − | ::: I really like how [[User:Knusperfrosch|Knusperfrosch]] didn't read that the last post (by me) was 10 July 2012... [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 06:10, 9 March 2013 (PST)
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| − | :::: @Hinaomi - I replied to Fyaweather's claim that "No one else has ever reported such a thing." by reporting ''two'' additional such instances, from a time when I didn't have keys to waste on normal crates. How else are people going to report something if they're being to told to shut up simply because a thread is a few months old? The issue still stands. (If I ever find a strange I didn't uncrate, I'll make damn sure to make screenshots to document if the weapon origin says "uncrated" or "drop".) Out of the total population of TF2 players how many people do you think frequent this Wiki, and what percentage of them actually reads the Discussion page, and how many of ''those'' would bother to make an account just to report something no-one will believe them? It's like fossil hunting. --[[User:Knusperfrosch|Knusperfrosch]] ([[User talk:Knusperfrosch|talk]]) 23:42, 20 September 2013 (PDT)
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| − | ::: @Eels - "There is no such thing as a Strange Neon Annihilator"? Funnily enough, three days after your posting, Strange Neon Annihilators now exist since the March 12, 2013 patch. They're in Supply Crate #57. And Backpack.tf currently lists their market price as 0.11 ref. --[[User:Knusperfrosch|Knusperfrosch]] ([[User talk:Knusperfrosch|talk]]) 23:42, 20 September 2013 (PDT)
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| − | Since it is technically a Strange item, sharing text colour and the ranking-up behaviour, I've added it to the article. It seems silly to have one orange-text item not included here, just because its level 0 blocks "Strange" with "The" as a prefix. Having said that, I expect some people to disagree, so discuss away! [[User:Rebmcr|<span style="font-size:18px; line-height:16px;<!--
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| − | : Doesn't look like too many people disagreed. If it acts like a strange, feels like a strange, and looks like a strange, it's pretty much a strange. [[User:Calq|Calq]] 16:29, 13 March 2012 (PDT)
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| − | == Strange Feeding Server(s) ==
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| − | There had been a server that cropped up under the name "Mighty's Strange Feeding/Idle Server" which later changed into "Dark's Strange Feeding/Idle Server". I wonder if this is OK with Steam and not bannable if you play in such a server. So far it is the only one of its kind. And it is now classified as Dead. [[User:Theodoremk|Theodoremk]] 10:54, 30 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | : You won't get banned for playing in that server. It's just the name. Typically, friendly fire is on and both spawns are accessible by both teams. And only one? Negative. http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=strange&game=tf2&location=US [[User:SS2R|SS2R]] 11:00, 30 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | : Sometimes I run a (private) Strange feeding server that is way more effective. Obviously I wouldn't run it if I actually thought anyone would get in trouble for using it. I highly doubt Valve cares what you do with your Strange weapons. – [[User:Fashnek|<span style="text-size:1.5em;font-weight:bold;color:#363;text-shadow:0 0 0.8em #6c6;">fashnek</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Fashnek|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Fashnek|c]])</sub> 11:03, 30 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | == Strange Quick-Fix ==
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| − | The Strange Quick-Fix ranks up by Ubers not assists only had 7 ubers and 50+ assists and was still named strange. [[User:Chaosblades|Chaosblades]] 16:31, 5 February 2012 (PST)
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| − | ==New Stranges (crate 39)==
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| − | :New Strange Loch-n-load, Strange Overdose and... doesnt seem to be any new ones. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Draforce94|Draforce94]]''' ([[User talk:Draforce94|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Draforce94|contribs]]) 00:37, 24 February 2012</small>
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| − | == Strange Mantread/Sapper/Holiday Punch ==
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| − | They all have new names for their ranks, so should a new table be made for them, or should they just be listed somewhere ? This could eventually be a problem if more stranges with different names for ranks are added, since we'd either have a large amount of cluttered space, or we'd just have a foot note on the article noting it.
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| − | [[User:December|December]] 21:41, 22 March 2012 (PDT)
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| − | : I combined the different rank tables into a single template: [[Template:Strange Weapon Ranks Table]]. It uses the Tabs template, so new Stranges with their own tables can be added (until we have over 20 different ones, which is when the Tabs template will have to be expanded. I've also changed the order of the tables to alphabetical (though with the Generic list on top), since the current order was just random as far as I could see. The new template uses the old templates, which still exist, so they can be used on for example the individual item pages (Like with the [[Spirit Of Giving]]. Adding a new list would thus mean making a new template, and then adding a tab to this one. --[[User:Itsacon|Itsacon]] 02:16, 6 April 2012 (PDT)
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| − | == Holiday Punch Bug ==
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| − | I punched an Enemy Heavy (Also wearing Holiday Punch) with my Strange Holiday Punch, causing him to laugh. I then noticed that the Holiday Punch did not count that. I may have just read it wrong, but who knows. Can anyone confirm this bug? [[User:Rotomthe3rd|Rotomthe3rd]] 18:11, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
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| − | : I think you misread your number. No other reports of this AFAIK. [[User:SS2R|SS2R]] 18:16, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
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| − | The arrows with fire dont increase the kill counts? I heard that they don't do it and I haven't one to check. <small>[[User:Dio|<span style="color:#404040">Dio ★</span>]] | [[User talk:Dio|<span style="color:#616161">talk</span>]]</small> 14:29, 25 May 2012 (PDT)
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| − | == If new strange Disiplinary action and Short Circuit ==
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| − | Instead of having the usual kill, would it have the how many times you would speed boost the person? And would the short circuit have how many times projectiles zapped? Yukkurirumia 12:02, June 09,2012 (PDT)
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| − | :This page isn't SPUF. Please do not post like this next time. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] 03:29, 11 June 2012 (PDT)
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| − | == Strange Weapons in MvM ==
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| − | Do they gain ranks on tobor kills? ==[[User:FaxCelestis|Fax Celestis]] <sub>[[User_talk:FaxCelestis|talk]]</sub><small>[[Special:Contributions/FaxCelestis|contrib]]</small><sup>[http://wiki.faxcelestis.net/ home]</sup> 04:32, 16 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | : No they don't. It would be too easy. --[[User:Tabs|Tabs]] 00:28, 21 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | == Items that don't have strange quality yet ==
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| − | http://pastebin.com/Sn0QB6gN --[[User:NZtheGingerNinja|NZtheGingerNinja]] 08:52, 20 October 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :{{c|comment}} I think it's useful and not useful at the same time. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 09:21, 20 October 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :{{c|Nope.avi}} {{User:Cooper Kid/Signature}} 10:27, 20 October 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :{{c|Neutral|Maybe... *sniff* maybe.}} It's conceivable that such a list might be a topic of interest, but more likely is that someone wants to know if weapon X is available in strange--easy to determine. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[Image:Item icon Otolaryngologist's Mirror.png|21px|link=User_talk:Darkid|alt=talk]]|[[Image:Item icon Sight for Sore Eyes.png|21px|link=Special:Contributions/Darkid|alt=contribs]]) 12:58, 20 October 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :{{c|Neutral|All I know is my gut says maybe.}} Like Hinaomi said, it would be useful at sometimes, but not really needed. [[File:Killicon maul.png|40px]] [[User:Bruss48|'''Bruss48''']] [[User talk:Bruss48|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Bruss48|C]] [[File:Killicon maul.png|40px]] 13:14, 20 October 2012 (PDT)
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| − | Can someone check the levels for this? I have been told that it gets Hale's Own at 850, rather than 8500. Could someone check this to make sure? [[User:Taser9001|Taser9001]] 04:20, 2 November 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :It's 850. Number can be found on [[Strange]] page. -[[User:Asplode|Asplode]] 04:27, 2 November 2012 (PDT)
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| − | == Botkillers / Festives ==
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| − | Should we combine all botkiller stranges into a single entry to make the table a bit less messy? Same question can be asked with festives and regular versions.[[User:Axiomus|Axiomus]] 04:18, 12 December 2012 (PST)
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| − | == Strange Festive Buff Banner ==
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| − | I have been using my Festive Strange Buff Banner, and Have noticed it levels much like the Holiday punch. I will levelling it again soon, so I will be able to confirm or deny it soon. If anyone else has details about it, please leave them below.
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| − | Holiday punch's leveling up system is same as normal weapons (it's just different name). And the buff banner also follows the generic leveling up system. Hope this solved your answer. [[User:Drsteiner12|Drsteiner12]] 00:28, 15 January 2013 (PST)
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| − | == Strange Crates Pattern ==
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| − | I have noticed, that the crates sometimes bring the stranges from the past again, for example, the scattergun, the rocket launcher, and the medigun. While there are many more weapons that haven't been dropped in strange quality, some are coming back. Is there a certain pattern how the strange weapons in crates are decided? [[User:Drsteiner12|Drsteiner12]] 02:27, 13 January 2013 (PST)
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| − | :No, It's valve's decision on what comes out. We have no way of knowing what will be in what crate. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] 05:34, 15 January 2013 (PST)
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| − | == Bleeding ==
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| − | Lets say i kill someone with a weapon that causes bleed, but not by the weapon itself, by the bleed caused, will it still add a kill to the counter? [[User:TugaMiguelPT|<span style="color: #00CCFF; font-style:italic;font-weight: bold; text- shadow-blue 3px 3px 5px;">TugaMiguelPT</span>]] [[File:Buffed_blu_medic.jpg|35px]] -'''DUMMKOPFS!''' 07:40, 2 February 2013 (PST)
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| − | :Had a Boston-Basher Fight the other day; kills via bleeding do increase its counter. [[User:Davjo|Davjo]] 04:50, 19 February 2013 (PST)
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| − | == Wrapping no longer preserves counters? ==
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| − | Rumor is, it doesn't any more. Can anyone confirm/deny? -- [[User:SheeEttin|SheeEttin]] ([[User talk:SheeEttin|talk]]) 21:33, 5 March 2013 (PST)
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| − | : I swear we had a conversation like this before. If you want to confirm it wrap one and give it to a friend. demos and screenshots would be nice. (for proof) [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] 21:35, 5 March 2013 (PST)
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| − | :: I don't have any gift wrap, but there's this: http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/19y9j0/wasnt_aware_they_fixed_it/
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| − | :: I'm gonna go out on a limb and change the article. -- [[User:SheeEttin|SheeEttin]] ([[User talk:SheeEttin|talk]]) 22:11, 8 March 2013 (PST)
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| − | :::[http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/comments/19yjwp/psa_all_counters_on_strange_weapons_reset_if/] [http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=131509989] -- [[User:SheeEttin|SheeEttin]] ([[User talk:SheeEttin|talk]]) 22:18, 8 March 2013 (PST)
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| − | :: Screenshot proof: A friend of mine just posted this screenshot of a weapon he gift-wrapped as a present: [http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=131509989] which contains the following warning message, "Scores on strange items will reset to 0 when wrapped." --[[User:Knusperfrosch|Knusperfrosch]] 05:12, 9 March 2013 (PST)
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| − | ::: What I'd like to know is, which patch or update brought this change? And why wasn't it more widely (or at all) made public? --[[User:Knusperfrosch|Knusperfrosch]] 05:12, 9 March 2013 (PST)
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| − | ::: Also, the Wiki article on Gift Wrap should be updated, as it still contains the claim that giftwrapping prevents strange counters from resetting. Can someone with more experience and seniority in this Wiki than me do that, please? --[[User:Knusperfrosch|Knusperfrosch]] 05:12, 9 March 2013 (PST)
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| − | Can anyone confirm the fact is wrapping actually will reset counters? Because I've got some proofs to wrapping is still keep them. For example: http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440/1539843756 Medi-Gun, wrapped and gifted couple days ago still keep ubers. [[User:Irvitzer|Irvitzer]] 20:24, 25 March 2013 (PDT)
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| − | : Only way to confirm it is to do it yourself. Just because someone says it doesn't mean its always true. Screenshots or a demo usually helps. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] 20:26, 25 March 2013 (PDT)
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| − | == Robots Destroyed Ranks ==
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| − | They're apparently also unused like the Dispenser healing. My Festive Flame Thrower has 123 kills and over 1500 robots destroyed and it's still Uncharitable. [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 07:03, 24 March 2013 (PDT)
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| − | : Mainly because, Stranges only rank based on one "Primary" way of ranking up. Robots destroyed do not count as a method to rank up. Strange parts are really just added counters. Similar to how the medigun tracks assists but only levels by ubers. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] 07:42, 24 March 2013 (PDT)
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| − | :: However, the Strange part robots destroyed appears to have a counter of its own, as shown by [[Template:Strange Weapon Ranks Table|this template]]. I would like some evidence before removing it, though. Can you link a screenshot of your Flamethrower? [[User:'Stache|'Stache]] 08:07, 24 March 2013 (PDT)
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| − | ::: Ok, Normally a strange part shouldn't have its own counter. However, yes more proof is required before anything is done. If anyone reading this and has this Strange part, Feel free to test it. (Screenshots or demo would be great) Thanks :D [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] 08:09, 24 March 2013 (PDT)
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| − | ::::[http://i.imgur.com/VGgIf4X.png There's your proof.] [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 18:21, 24 March 2013 (PDT)
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| − | :::::Based on that image. It looks like Robots destroyed part is just a sub counter like all other strange parts. So it shouldn't be able to rank up. Unless anyone else has any input I'm fine with removing it off the template. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] 19:10, 24 March 2013 (PDT)
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| − | == what happened to the rank table? ==
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| − | It used to tell you the different rank levels of both normal Stranges and others that had custom ranks, such as the Holiday Punch and Sapper. Why is it now only showing the basic, default table for these?
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| − | [[User:The Lunatic25|The Lunatic25]] ([[User talk:The Lunatic25|talk]]) 11:07, 18 July 2013 (PDT)
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| − | :I recently changed the table because it wasn't clear what the table was showing other than the standard ranks, and it looked out of place with the rest of the page. There were also issues with what the table was linking to in places. It'd probably be best if someone added/created a table, or set of tables, that showed the ranks in a much easier to understand fashion. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 11:13, 18 July 2013 (PDT)
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| − | == This may have to be tested. ==
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| − | I wanted to check today if the Invis Watch can rank up by standing idle next to a resupply locker (just out of curiosity), I was on an empty server to do this, yet I noticed that my counter would not go up, even when I moved around. Do strange items like this not go up when the server is empty? If so, how many people need to be on the server for this to count? --[[User:Shnowshner200|Shnowshner]] ([[User talk:Shnowshner200|talk]]) 18:06, 8 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | : For the Invis Watch counter to go up you have to Uncloak. If you do not uncloak it will not count. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 18:45, 8 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | :: Yes, I know that. I tried uncloaking but it still did not go up. --[[User:Shnowshner200|Shnowshner]] ([[User talk:Shnowshner200|talk]]) 19:46, 11 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | ::: Maybe try leaving spawn? If not no idea there. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 19:49, 11 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | :::: Like I'd said, tried everything I could to have it update; leaving spawn, jumping, moving, letting cloak drain out, rapidly clicking M2, yet nothing happened. And just now, I tested to see if it went up when a bot was on a server, and it went up, unlike how other stranges don't work on bots (AFAIK). It appears the invis watch WILL only track seconds cloaked when there is another person or bot on the server. With that being said, should this information be added? --[[User:Shnowshner200|Shnowshner]] ([[User talk:Shnowshner200|talk]]) 16:18, 13 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | :Servers you create won't work, it's the same as spawning an idle bot and trying to level up a weapon [[User:Reisen|Reisen]] ([[User talk:Reisen|talk]]) 14:19, 28 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | == Strange Hat Modifiers ==
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| − | This is a tentative list of the prefixes for strange hats in order, but I've yet to test how many points are required for each.
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| − | :Strange, Ragged, Tacky, Secondhand, Odious, Garish, Comfortable, Dapper, Sharp, Fancy, Fancy Schmancy, Fashionable, Glamorous, Posh, Fabulous, Stunning, Epic, Legendary, Australian, Mann Co. Select.
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| − | The point values for each tier are different from the regular weapon values, but in the same order of magnitude.
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| − | Mann Co. Select is 10 000 points [[User:Reisen|Reisen]] ([[User talk:Reisen|talk]]) 14:25, 28 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | somebody on reddit [http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1l9v7z/for_anyone_interested_in_strangifying_an_unusual/cbxaqx6 has them], apparently. [[User:Niblic|Niblic]] ([[User talk:Niblic|talk]]) 18:13, 28 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | == Helltower ==
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| − | 'Kills' in Hell on [[Helltower]] don't increase strange counts; I think this is because you don't 'die' as usual, but turns into ghost. Don't know, where better note this bug, here or on map's page. [[User:Irvitzer|Irvitzer]] ([[User talk:Irvitzer|talk]]) 09:22, 3 November 2013 (PST)
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| − | == Strange Ranks on Botkillers ==
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| − | On the wiki page about stranges, the ranks section of the page suggests that botkiller weapons require 10x the amount of kills to level up than an ordinary strange, I.E. a botkiller needs 100 kills to become scarcely lethal. being a botkiller owner, I know this not to be true. Can anyone confirm and make changes? [[User:Sponger593|Sponger593]] ([[User talk:Sponger593|talk]]) 21:23, 19 November 2013 (PST)
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| − | == Strange Sapper ranking up ==
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| − | I have been wondering for a while and have still not gotten a proper answer, so I wonder if anybody here knows. Does a Strange Sapper's/Snack Attack's score increase when somebody else delivers the killing blow to a sapped building?
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| − | For example when I sap it and a Soldier destroys it, does the Sapper's score still increase? I mean the Sapper counts "Buildings Sapped" rather than "Buildings Destroyed", however, "Buildings Destroyed" cannot be applied to a Strange Sapper or Snack Attack.
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| − | [[User:DatWut|DatWut]] ([[User talk:DatWut|talk]]) 07:44, 23 June 2014 (PDT)
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| − | == Strange Vaccinator ==
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| − | I was only wondering, does the Strange Vaccinator track all 4 (I should say) "mini" Übercharges? Like if I were to fill my Über to 25%, then deploy it, would it count as 1 on the strange counter? [[User:M15513c0mm4nd|M15513c0mm4nd]] ([[User talk:M15513c0mm4nd|talk]]) 12:58, 16 September 2014 (PDT)
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| − | :AFAIK yes, it does. A "full" 8 second ubercharge is worth 4 strange "kills". [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 12:33, 18 October 2014 (PDT)
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| − | == Stranges Being De-emphasized? ==
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| − | For a few weeks now, the strange level name (Gore Splattered, etc.) no longer shows when viewing an item in Steam inventory, or on your profile showcase, or really anywhere else except when you are viewing your own inventory in TF2 itself, rather than via the Steam Client inventory viewer.
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| − | For this reason, your ranking is only really visible to yourself, and really not even all that visible to yourself in most circumstances.
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| − | I don't know why this is the case, but it seems like the whole name-rank thing is very deemphasized now... almost unnoticable. I don't know if this is worth mentioning on the main page, but it seems like a major change. [[User:JafafaHots|JafafaHots]] ([[User talk:JafafaHots|talk]]) 19:02, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
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| − | : Pretty sure Valve changed this a few weeks ago. Most likely so that people didn't mix up Australian and Australium weapons. Either way, it's not that big a change, the ranks are still there and everything, you just don't see them in any web clients. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 19:04, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
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| − | :: sure but considering that Steam itself is a web client of sorts, the pages are html, that means you don't see them anywhere except in-game... which is not where most people do their looking at inventories, etc. [[User:JafafaHots|JafafaHots]] ([[User talk:JafafaHots|talk]]) 17:54, 2 November 2014 (PST)
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| − | :: and you don't even see them in-game if the backpack is private. strangely enough, [[killstreak]]s aren't affected, leading me to believe that it's the result of a bug. --[[User:Kincyr|Kincyr]] ([[User talk:Kincyr|talk]]) 20:04, 30 January 2015 (PST)
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| − | == Halloween Haunted/Stranges ==
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| − | Regarding the new update of H2014, do we put all the Halloween items inside the Strange Quality Template Tables (Due to being haunted & Strange)? And Should we move the Necro Smasher to All-Class with a subscript saying *All Class (Except Spy)? [[User:Tyconson67|Tyconson67]] ([[User talk:Tyconson67|talk]]) 07:19, 10 November 2014 (PST)
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| − | :All strange items (regardless of other qualities) should be in the strange table. All class should be reserved for actual all-class, not 8/9. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 07:35, 10 November 2014 (PST)
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| − | ::The reason I asked regarding the Necro Smasher is due to the Frying Pan, which is 7/9. However, the Golden pan is 9/9, could this mean anything? [[User:Tyconson67|Tyconson67]] ([[User talk:Tyconson67|talk]]) 15:17, 10 November 2014 (PST)
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| − | After some unknown update, Strange Chargin' Targes and Splendid Screens count kills you do while you wear it, along with shield bash kills. Just going to add this into the bug section for now cause I don't know how to update the unique rank methods. [[User:Archrelico|<font color="green"> '''Archrelico "Mexi"''']] 15:22, 5 April 2016 (PDT)
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| − | == Strange ranks for the Professional specs ==
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| − | I know their different but I would like to know whats to come/ whats done..
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| − | <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Live4life|Live4life]]''' ([[User talk:Live4life|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Live4life|contribs]]) </small>
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| − | : As I recall it follows the generic cosmetic list as they came from strangifiers. So it should be no different from the regular Cosmetic stranges. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 22:06, 19 April 2016 (PDT)
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| − | :: The words are different though. Thats what I am interested in [[User:Live4life|Live4life]] ([[User talk:Live4life|talk]]) 01:51, 20 April 2016 (PDT)
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