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| − | I. NEED. THAT. ITEM. --[[User:Shattered Heart Lynx|Shattered Heart Lynx]] 17:26, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :Talk pages on the wiki aren't really used for this kind of discussion. Please use [http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/ this] instead. Or even swing by the IRC. [[File:User Wingless Winged Signature.png|150px|link=User:Wingless]] 17:27, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | It's a PDA for the Engineer, then? How does the user equip the item? Does it goes into the Misc Slot? --[[User:SLBros|SLBros]] 17:34, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :Based on prior experience, it probably alters the appearance of it when equipped in the misc slot. [[User:Noizeblaze|Noizeblaze]] 17:37, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | Hope it gets styles for amber blue and white screen.[[User:Amp32|Amp32]] 17:36, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | *The item is loaded in the Misc slot according to the Mann Co. Catalog in game. [[User:Jh9594|Jh9594]] 17:38, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | I think now, when a special slot for pda is released, it should have been moved to "PDA" slot as a reskin of it) [[User:Sar-Shazarr|Sar-Shazarr]] 07:01, 11 April 2012 (PDT)
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| − | ==HUD==
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| − | Can someone post a screenie of the altered PDA HUD? [[User:SkillerBehindYou|SkillerBehindYou]] 17:56, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :We dont have that information yet. All we know is its a misc promo for the engineer. [[User:Dr. Blutengott|Dr. Blutengott]] 19:39, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Engineer "Vault Boy" Trivia ==
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| − | "The character in the Pip-Boy screen is known in the Fallout Universe as "Vault-Boy", which he is used in a visual representation of Skills and Perks, and this case, the Engineer." Should I add that into the Trivia? --[[User:Shattered Heart Lynx|Shattered Heart Lynx]] 19:01, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :Rewrite it, that sentence gives me a headache. [[User:Coreycubed|coreycubed]] / [[User talk:Coreycubed|talk]] 19:03, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :Sorry for that, I rushed the whole sentence :P English is not my native language. How about "The engineer drawing who appears in the Pip-Boy Screen is known as "Vault Boy" in the Fallout Universe. The Vault Boy is used to provide an iconic representation of the perks and stats available to the player character, Vault Boy is also the Mascot of Fallout Series and the Vault-Tec Corporation." --[[User:Shattered Heart Lynx|Shattered Heart Lynx]] 19:09, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | I added a gallery with an image of Vault-Boy and a bit of info about him. I think it should be enough, but what do you think? --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 19:15, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :Awesome, but a little info about his role in Fallout should be added as well. --[[User:Shattered Heart Lynx|Shattered Heart Lynx]] 19:18, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | I don't think building upon it any more is necessary. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 19:47, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :Agreed, there should be a minimal digression into other topics. [[User:Ryftt|Ryftt]] 06:45, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Droppable? ==
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| − | I went to a trade server and saw someone with one of these and some others with the skyrim helmets and the new rocket launchers. Were the items maybe put into the drop system? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:SteamingKettleOfIgnorance|SteamingKettleOfIgnorance]]''' ([[User talk:SteamingKettleOfIgnorance|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/SteamingKettleOfIgnorance|contribs]]) 23:40, 3 August 2011</small>
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| − | :Server mod possibly? [[File:User_M-NINJA_Signature.png|link=User:M-NINJA]] 20:42, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :That was an oversite that was fixed, they shouldnt drop anymore. Also please sign when you post on a talk page. [[User:Dr. Blutengott|Dr. Blutengott]] 20:43, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :I was under the impression they were craftable and droppable after the patch? [[User:Ryftt|Ryftt]]
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| − | :: You are correct. [[User:SS2R|SS2R]] 00:37, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :::Can confirm that a non-genuine PipBoy dropped on 3/29/11 [[User:NIkbot|NIkbot]] 19:02, 29 March 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :{{c|Comment}} NIKbot, I hope you realize that you are replying to a discussion that ended months ago. At the time of the discussion the Pip-Boy could not be found by random drop. The [[August 9, 2011 Patch]] made it so that this could be found in random drops. [[File:User_M-NINJA_Signature.png|link=User:M-NINJA]] 13:02, 4 April 2012 (PDT)
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| − | == Quote ==
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| − | I trimmed the quote down because part of it's something in ''Dead Money'' more then the pip-boy itself. [[User:Cheesepopcorn|Cheesepopcorn]]<sup>[[User talk:Cheesepopcorn|(stuff)]]</sup> 02:53, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :If I recall, this is the TEAM FORTRESS 2 wikipedia, not meaning that to be completely insulting, and as such the quote is not supposed to be from Fallout: New Vegas. As seen in other hat quotes, it should be a quote/link to a phrase from the engineer... or something fitting from another class if it seems right. We should look into a TF2 quote to replace it ASAP.Jack O'Mally 20:30, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | : A number of promo articles contain quotations from the characters from their respective games. Some don't even use quotes, they use descriptions that define the item well. [[Foster's Facade]], [[Stockbroker's Scarf]], [[Ellis' Cap]], [[Brain Bucket]], [[Dead Cone]], [[Enthusiast's Timepiece]], [[License to Maim]], [[Iron Curtain]], [[Dangeresque, Too?]], [[Lugermorph]], [[Companion Cube Pin]], [[Resurrection Associate Pin]], [[Max's Severed Head]], [[Big Kill]] and [[Earbuds]], specifically. Some of those are "quotes" from a class which the class never actually says. Some are from the blog! The part you lobbed out wasn't "about" Dead Money. It's an accurate description of the Pip-Boy, even how it's used in our TF2. Engineer gets a new Build HUD with this item equipped. "It may have helped you find the Sierra Madre broadcast, but it's just as much a crutch today as it was in the Old World." easily parallels "It may have helped you build more gun, but it's just as much a crutch today as it was in the Old World." As the completely fair and impartial contributor of this quote, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to {{c|Disagree}} with changing it. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 21:38, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | Suggestion: The Line is voiced, right? Why don't we make it heard, like just about every other item? [[User:Nutter|Nutter]] 14:25, 5 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Got it? What for? ==
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| − | As excited as I was to actually get this item, I was extremely supprised when while screwing around on itemtest I got a Genuine Pip Boy. Not tradeable. --[[User:PYC128|PYC128]] 10:21, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | I think it's because of the Quakecon Steam Sale thing. I guess you will be able to buy Fallout New Vegas and get the Pip Boy. I got the Pip Boy, too. I only have Fallout New Vegas(No DLC). --[[User:Antichrist|Antichrist]]
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| − | : You own New Vegas, you got a Pip Boy. It becomes tradable on the 7th. [[User:Thenyproject|Thenyproject]] 10:40, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | Now the PDA change won't happen. Should that be listed as a bug or am I the only one? --[[User:PYC128|PYC128]] 14:08, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | this must be added or mentioned that like the charge and targe and GL. or the Turtle neck for spy, the pip boy does not appear within first person view. this should at least be mentioned? [[User:Gamecrazy009|Gamecrazy009]] 16:18, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | : Yea, it probably should be, considering the examples of other articles you mentioned. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 16:20, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | : Why would this be mentioned? You can't see _any_ miscellaneous or hats in first-person few. Charge and Targe is a weapon, and you _can_ see it in first person view when holding a melee weapon. You know what else can't be seen in first person view? _Every single hat and miscellaneous item in the game._ I really don't feel that needs to be mentioned under the "Bugs" section of every hat and misc. item's page. It most certainly isn't a bug. - [[User:GAMEchief|GAMEchief]] 16:03, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Genuine and Normal ==
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| − | Does the item come genuine no matter what, or is it only rewarded to players who owned FNV before the sale? If so we should change the genuine text to show this. To be informative, and prevent people from basing their purchase of FNV on getting a 'genuine' pip-boy if otherwise incorrect.
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| − | Jack O'Mally 20:39, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :It is awarded in genuine to players who owned Fallout: New Vegas before August 8, 2011. Which currently is the only way to receive the item. [[File:User_M-NINJA_Signature.png|link=User:M-NINJA]] 20:47, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::But the sale is to get you to buy various things, has anyone recently bought FNV? To put in perspective, do you get it as genuine if you buy the game no matter the time? Or do you get it as genuine for owning FNV before the sale, and get a normal one if you get FNV during said sale.
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| − | Jack O'Mally 21:23, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :I had just bought New Vegas today and received a Genuine quality Pip-Boy. I assume that the genuine quality will only be available until the sale ends on the 7th. [[User:BC]] 22:15, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Styles ==
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| − | Sadly, the Pip-Boy doesn't come with the Amber/White/Blue screen, and matching Build/Demolish HUD. Luckily, I did create an Amber and Blue version and uploaded the material and resource files to GameBanana. I tried to make white, but there was an issue with the RGBA value (228 228 228 255, a darker shade of white) not appearing as actual white ingame. The RGBA values were needed in the special "pipboy" "build_menu" and "destroy_menu" RES files. Source Engine + RGBA values for white = Not actually white. I ended up deleting my files for the white version.
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| − | * [http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/110871 Blue Pip-Boy Screen & Build/Demolish Menu]
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| − | * [http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/110870 Amber Pip-Boy Screen & Build/Demolish Menu]
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| − | Enjoy! [[User:404 User Not Found|404 User Not Found]] 13:37, 5 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Pip Boy Behavior ==
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| − | I like the fact they added a Pip Boy to TF2 but why doesn't the Engie use it like in Fallout New Vegas? You know like actually looking at it instead of pulling out his default remote things? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:That Furry Fan|That Furry Fan]]''' ([[User talk:That Furry Fan|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/That Furry Fan|contribs]]) </small>
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| − | ::I was actually thinking of designing a new HUD for the Pip-Boy that contains the Engineer's arm with the Pip-Boy equipped, so it looks like he's actually looking at the Pip-Boy. However, that would be a bad idea because the arm would block the majority of the screen when you're building, thus leaving the player to be a sitting duck for the enemy. [[User:404 User Not Found|404 User Not Found]] 16:32, 5 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == XBOX HUD ==
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| − | ''If using a Xbox 360 Controller, the special skin for the Build/Destroy Menu will not appear.''
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| − | Yeah, the reason for this is Valve didn't add in special RES files for the XBOX 360 Build/Destroy HUD. Currently, this item has it's own RES files in their own special folders under:
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| − | * tf/resource/ui/destroy_menu/pipboy
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| − | * tf/resource/ui/build_menu/pipboy
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| − | Now, there is also "tf/resource/ui/build_menu_360", but there's no special "pipboy" subfolder in it. As for "destroy_menu_360", well that doesn't even exist.
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| − | '''So yeah, this isn't really a "bug", it's more or less intentional programming.''' [[User:404 User Not Found|404 User Not Found]] 01:57, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Reskin? ==
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| − | Is this item classed as a reskin?[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 05:57, 13 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | : No, I don't think so. It just changes the UI, it's still a misc item. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 06:05, 13 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::Oh okay, just didn't know if it was a reskinned PDA too.[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 06:08, 13 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Crafting ==
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| − | Since it's craftable, should we show how? I don't know how this one is crafted, but if it's like the normal PDA crafting then we should show that. [[User:RedXM|RedXM]] 17:28, 14 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | :It's a misc item without a specific crafting recipie. Four refined and an engie token is the closest way to getting it directly.--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] {{mod}} 17:38, 14 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | ::-> [[Random crafting recipes]] Seriously, we need this page put somewhere more obvious. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 17:58, 14 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | ::: A checkbox or something in the infobox saying "Random craft: Yes" or something in the crafting section would work. Right now we have hats that are able to be crafted with other hats, but can't actually be crafted themselves, so it's not as easy as just saying "crafting" in the infobox. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 18:05, 14 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | ::::Yes, I've asked seb for something exactly like that. The availability template is locked so there isn't much else I can do. Just have to wait for a reply I suppose. <br>'''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 19:01, 14 December 2011 (PST)
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| − | ::Piemanmoo said ''"It's a misc item without a specific crafting recipie. Four refined and an engie token is the closest way to getting it directly"'' .. er .. according to http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Crafting , ''Four refined and an engie token'' could only possibly give you a hat, not a misc item like the Pip-Boy. So there really is no way to craft it.[[User:Noobyorkcity|Noobyorkcity]] 22:26, 2 July 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :::In the case of crafting, a misc item counts as a piece of headgear. {{User:Cooper Kid/Signature}} 06:55, 3 July 2012 (PDT)
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| − | Shouldn't this item have it's own demonstration video? I know it's just a reskin, but reskins still get individual demonstrations. The boston basher and the three-rune blade don't share a demonstration, so why is this one the same? [[User:Writeline|Writeline]] 09:12, 31 March 2013 (PDT)
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| − | :It lacks a Weapon Demonstration because it is not a weapon, but rather a Misc. It only changes one menu anyhow, so the pictures provided will most likely suffice. [[File:Leaderboard class tank.png|30px|link=Special:Contributions/Cobaltcakes]][[User:Cobaltcakes|<span style="color:#0047AB;font-size:16px;font-family:'Agency FB Bold';text-shadow:#d3d3d3 3px 3px 0px;"><b>COBALT</b></span>]] 09:16, 31 March 2013 (PDT)
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| − | ::You should ask this at [[Team Fortress Wiki talk:Weapon Demonstration]]. However, the answer is that cosmetics that alter weapons don't get their own demonstrations - see the equalizer for the other example of this - largely to reduce the amount of video to produce. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 09:17, 31 March 2013 (PDT)
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