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*  A [[Tough Guy's Toque]] painted with ''Color No. 216-190-216'' is only painted while on Red team. (This may apply to other colours and the Tough Guys Toque, but I've only got a ''Color No. 216-190-216'' one). -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 17:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
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* A [[Respectless Rubber Glove]] painted with ''An Extraordinary Abundance of Tinge'' is not seen painted at death. [[User:Cupcakes5634|Cupcakes5634]] 11:16, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
''Submit any paint-related bugs you encounter above this line, and remember to sign it at the end with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
 
 
 
== Hat previews? ==
 
I know it probably require a lot of work, but I think it would be neat if we got up a hat preview. While the list of colors is appreciated, seeing the actual results would be very useful to most TF2 players. Of course, this would lead to a massive amount of images, but there is space for that on the hosting right? --[[User:Ailure|Ailure]] 04:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{c|in progress}}I wasn't around when you made this comment, but I'm already working on that.  Hopefully we'll have a good implementation in a few hours. -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 13:45, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::Awesome! I look forward to that then! :) It's hard to tell how some colors would wind up looking on the hats, so this should be really useful. --[[User:Ailure|Ailure]] 19:04, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::: I have noticed that some of the colors don't look the same as in game. I saw the tyrants helm with the white paint and it was white, not pink like it shows on the wiki page. [[User:Alinay|Alinay]] 00:46, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:::: Are you sure?  The alpha channel in the Tyrants Helm's texture is slightly transparent, so it should be slightly pink in game.  If you're correct then either mine and Pilk's method of painting is incorrect, or the in-game lighting is eliminating the "pink".  Can you get a screenshot for us to review.  Thanks -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 00:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::::: Would it be possible to show the default color as well. For things like the Texas Ten Gallon, the default and the White look practically the same, but would be easier to compare if you could see it side by side. [[User:Rhonlore|Rhonlore]] 02:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::: There's the article's image and backpack icon in the articles for comparison.  If it wouldn't require re-doing so much work for a non-painted version with the same angle of the painted ones, then I would support your suggestion - but only because of my need for consistency - it's a minor thing.-[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 03:25, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 
: It's worth noting that items that change color by team, often will change color with paint. Granted, getting BLU previews would be twice the work for some hats, but... it's worth mentioning. [[User:CloudT|CloudT]] 10:51, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:: I've also noticed that quite a few hats will still have a very faint shade of their original color, despite the paint. Is this a bug or is this intentional? [[User:Alphard|Alphard]] 05:09, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
Painted previews can be found here [[User:RJackson/Sandbox/Painted_items]]. I added it to a '''Related Links''' section, since it's so highly requested. [[User:GAMEchief|- GAMEchief]] 13:50, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 
: [[List of paintable items]] was already linked to in the article. -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 13:54, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Paint can prices ==
 
We need to add the price for those. In $, £ and €. [[User:Dkyde|- Dkyde]] 13:43, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Color No. 216-190-216  ==
 
 
 
216-190-216 refers to the decimal value of it's hexadecimal number, being D8BED8. D8 = 216; BE = 190. [[User:Danton|Danton]] 00:53, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
: Yes it does. It's the RGB value. You don't need to convert it to hex, although they're essentially the same number. rgb(216, 190, 216). - [[User:GAMEchief|GAMEchief]] 13:48, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
: Both wrong... refers to the color's HSL value [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSV_color_space] I have updated this in the trivia section. [[User:Zebra|Zebra]] 1:32, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
 
 
 
== List of coloured hats ==
 
 
 
There's a list of coloured hats with images here: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1455845.
 
They're pretty low-quality, should we use them on the hat pages? --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 03:15, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
I believe that some of the higher-quality images should be used unless/until better alternatives come around.  I recommend ones such as [http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4748/billsrealhat.jpg] , [http://imgkk.com/i/1sgq.png] , and [http://i.imgur.com/t6zxc.png] , where the view is clear and the poses are interesting. --[[User:Ashsflames|Ashsflames]] 03:24, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Does using a Paint Can remove the item's Vintage status? ==
 
 
 
Because look at how awesome this looks: [http://i.imgur.com/dS4i3.jpg][[User:Michael|Michael]] 12:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:Nope.-[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 00:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 
: I can vouch for this. I painted my Vintage Hustler's Hallmark. It's still Vintage. :) - [[User:GAMEchief|GAMEchief]] 13:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Undoing Paint ==
 
 
 
Is it possible to reverse a paint job? Or once painted, can the hat not be reverted to its original color? [[User:Ensign Epic|Ensign Epic]] 00:41, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:No.  You can re-paint it, but not undo it. -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 00:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::It would be nice if you could remove the paint off the hats. You shouldn't get the paint back, but an option to remove would be cool.[[User:Alinay|Alinay]] 00:59, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 
This was added in the October 6 patch, I believe. [[User:Big G|Big G]] 19:45, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:Though the issue remains that if you use a name or description tag, you cannot get to the paint as it's like a stack and the tags have to come off first. --[[User:Sekioh|Sekioh]] 17:44, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Painted Hatless? ==
 
 
 
It says that all hats can be painted, but can be hatlesses be painted? They are still headgear afterall. I think it should be noted at least. [[User:Mykee92|Mykee92]] 17:09, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:Did you even look at the list? {{n}}[[User:Smashman|<span class="bur">Smashman</span>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> {{bur}} 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::Sorry, I missed it. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Mykee92|Mykee92]] 17:19, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
Maybe, if we're lucky, they will add paints to the Sniper and Scout hatless, and maybe Engineer, seeing as he has around 1 mm of hair--[[User:TheHamz|TheHamz]] 15:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:Get a Texas Slim Dome Shine + Green paint = One Green Wolverine-Mean Engineer --[[User:Flying Pyro|Flying Pyro]] 21:29, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Pages for the colours? ==
 
 
 
Just throwing an idea out there, wouldn't it be useful if we had separate pages for the various colours? That way, people who got one colour can see which hat it looks best on. --[[User:Tinker|Tinker]] 20:01, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
: Check some of the individual hat pages. A bunch of us have already spent a lot of time doing hat previews. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|'''Benjamuffin''']] [[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] 20:02, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
:: What I meant was, once we get the hat previews all up, wouldn't it be helpful to group the same-coloured hats on the colour pages as well? [[User:Tinker|Tinker]] 20:29, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:::That is not a bad idea. We'll consider it. {{n}}[[User:Smashman|<span class="bur">Smashman</span>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> {{bur}} 21:19, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::::I was just thinking about this to. A page for all hats with the same colour is an excellent idea. Boys, we should get cracking! [[User:Nanosheep|(nanosheep_inc)]] 04:46, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::I was wondering, is this still WIP, or since abandoned? --[[File:Killicon_machina_penetratehs.png|40px|link=User:Cerbrus]] [[User:Cerbrus|<font color="#CF6A32" face="TF2 Build">Cerbrus</font>]] 04:56, 8 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::::::I believe we had a similar discussion before/after (where?) this, and the outcome was: a page that almost nobody will use for extra maintenance. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:#CC2200">Darkid</span>]] ([[Image:Item icon Magistrate's Mullet.png|21px|link=User_talk:Darkid]]|[[Image:Item icon Stereoscopic Shades.png|21px|link=Special:Contributions/Darkid]]) 05:47, 8 July 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Color codes? ==
 
 
 
Is there a reason colors are listed in hex? The engine uses 0-255 or 0-1 RGB values for everything material related... [[User:A Boojum Snark|A Boojum Snark]] 23:03, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
: 0-255 and 0-1 RGB values? If I look at the files, it uses single 7-number value to define the color with the 0-255 RGB values written as comments ("value" "7511618" // 114 158 66). -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{adm}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 23:15, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:: I don't see a problem with using hex.  It's probably the most universally recognisable method of communicating colour in computer-related applications (when I first learned about referencing colours on a computer, it was always the hex I dealt with).-[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 23:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::: Yeah, the file has color values in large number format (the decimal form of the hex value). However that's quite an odd method that would be ridiculous to list here, but at the same time nowhere is the color represented in it's hex form, only the 255RGB form is mentioned in the comment. One example of what I meant about 0-255 and 0-1 RGB is [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/$color here], and pretty much every other place developers may encounter a color it will be one of those two forms, that's why I find it strange to list them in hex here. They're also in a column labeled "color", with a background OF the color, so I don't think any difference in recognition between hex or 255RGB (if it exists) is an issue. [[User:A Boojum Snark|A Boojum Snark]] 01:42, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::: addendum: I suppose it's worth noting the pink paint can itself even uses the 255RGB form in it's name. [[User:A Boojum Snark|A Boojum Snark]] 01:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Black & White Paint Dropping? ==
 
 
 
I've gotten a lot of reports that says black and white paint can be found randomly without crates. Can anyone confirm this with a screenshot and update the main page? I keep getting conflicting reports. 01:36, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 
: People might be confused, because when someone finds it from a crate, it looks similar to a random drop --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 01:55, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::Well I do not know if this is credible, but on http://www.tf2items.com/allitems.php?d=1 it does now show that black and white are findable in the craft system. Also I thought when someone opens a crate, it says "<playername> opened: <item>" ? --[[User:Typo001|'''Typo001''']] 02:45, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::: I believe so... I'll need a screen to be sure though. --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 02:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:::: [http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=17851407 I've posted on SPUF] to see if anybody has received white or black paint via the drop system. If there's a credible amount of reports then I guess it'll be worth sticking in the article.-[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 12:35, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::::: Actually, when a player gets a crate item, the chat area ststes "<player> has unboxed: <item>" [[User:OddPyro|OddPyro]] 14:11, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Change from Hats you can Paint to Hats you can't Paint ==
 
 
 
Why did this change happen, it was easier to go from the Paint page directly to the hat you would like to see painted than to go to the hat page, forget which hats aren't paintable and just going through each one anyway. I understand there are less un-paintable hats, but usability definitely took a hit. Just my 2cents [[User:Rhonlore|Rhonlore]] 03:12, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:[[User:Pilk/Painted items]] ;) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] {{adm}} 04:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::That's fantastic Wind. Looks like a change has been made anyway, though I approve of both lists! [[User:Rhonlore|Rhonlore]] 20:31, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Painted + Named Hats ==
 
Since we can now remove paint and names, do we know which is removed first? I named my batter's helmet, then painted it, and when I clicked the "Remove" button, it asked me if I was sure I wanted to unpaint it. But, that was one hat only, so I'm unsure if it's related to the order you put names/paints on.
 
[[User:TheMedik|TheMedik]] 20:53, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:Interesting question. We'll do some research. {{n}}[[User:Smashman|<span class="bur">Smashman</span>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> {{bur}} 21:04, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:I'd like to know more about this too, if someone has a hat with both paint and a custom name. [[User:BadDog|BadDog]] 04:59, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Can we change the video to something simplier? ==
 
 
 
I think having a video with the title "I made Johnny Bravo" encourages other people to add trivia on  how similar a painted hat is to pop culture references. I propose we use this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUol8gt5WmM. It's simpler and shorter. [[User:ShunyValdez|ShunyValdez]] 03:15, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
I second that, seems more appropriate. --[[User:Flf4sgam3r|Flf4sgam3r]] 16:46, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
==Lack of colour==
 
Is it necessary to point out that there is no red paint? [[User:Konoton|Konoton]] 01:48, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 
[[User:Konoton|Konoton]] 01:48, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:I don't see that line? [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 01:54, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:: There's no blue either, so that the team colours won't confuse people --[[User:Firestorm|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}}</span> 02:55, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:::@ Mousekateer there isn't one, it's something I was considering adding but I understand why you would think that. Thank you Firestorm for clearing that up.[[User:Konoton|Konoton]] 04:50, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::::"Team spirit" paint was just added with today's update, which will presumably make hats that aren't normally different per-team team-colored, and probably make hats that are already team-colored more pronounced? (Heck I dunno, I haven't even finished downloading the thing yet.) --[[User:M2pt5|M2pt5]] 23:00, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
==Multiple Paints used on a single hat==
 
 
 
I was told in-game today that if you use white paint on a hat multiple times, it gets whiter every time to the point that it becomes its own light source. Is this true? [[User:Bnui ransder|Bnui ransder]] 10:58, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:No. -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}}
 
:While we're at it, paint is (unfortunately) not layered at all. It would been awesome to be able to mix colors though. --[[User:Ailure|Ailure]] 11:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::Well, to be able to mix paints correctly, you'd have to use primary colors for best results. Mixing colors like, say, green, purple, orange and so on would quickly turn into brownish colors instead of nice mixes. But as you may know, you don't have red or blue-only paint cans and the closest thing to yellow is gold. As it is set for now, the painting system is not ready for this kind of feature. Maybe some day, who knows, they'll be selling palettes for us to mix paints before applying them? ^^' — [[User:BadDog|BadDog]] 05:12, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Strange thing about trying to translate. ==
 
 
 
Hello guys.
 
So, I tried to translate the Paint can page to pt-br (brazilian portuguese).
 
 
 
OK, i translated it, but, there's a problem...
 
 
 
When the Paint_Can/pt-br page changes, the original page changes too. So I can't translate it it.
 
 
 
Help? <small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:Kenji2298 |Kenji2298 ]] ([[User talk:Kenji2298 |talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Kenji2298 |contribs]]) 19:47, 10 November 2010 </small>
 
 
 
:The page [[Paint_Can/pt-br]] is currently a redirect to the english version. So you got redirected to the english version and then edited that. I'll move your translation over there. --[[User:CruelCow|CruelCow]] {{sta}} <sup>([[User_talk:CruelCow|talk]])</sup> 18:49, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 
==Trivia==
 
 
 
Is the fact that the loadout image Radigan Conhager Brown trivia worthy? [[User:Smaxx77|Smaxx77]] 19:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:I didn't notice untill you said, so I think it is. [[User:Big G|Big G]] 19:51, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::Loadout image? which one? [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 19:53, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:::In the Mann Co. store, the image for "Paint Can" is Distinct lack of Hue.  Not sure where Radigan Conhager is... maybe he's thinking the original TF2items.com images or something... not sure.  [[User:CptObvious|CptObvious]] 02:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
==Painted Variants==
 
All the hat pages have a massive white space caused by the painted variants table interfering with the Item info box. However, I don't know how to adjust the table. Because it uses a template insert. How can I alter this table? [[User:Konoton|Konoton]] 17:28, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:The template's designed so it fits fine on a browser window approximately 1024 pixels wide.  Any smaller can cause problems, but there's little we can do about that aside from making the images smaller - something I don't think we should do. -[[User:RJackson|<span class="burbg" style="margin-right:1px;text-shadow: #538237 1px 1px 0px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}} 17:33, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Team Spirit, huh? ==
 
Hey guys, I think we need a separate page for Team Spirit paint can 'cause it works different if compare it with other cans.
 
[[User:SlasHDriveR|SlasHDriveR]] 10:03, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:Well, in my opinion, they are still paint cans all the same. [[User:Tkj|Tkj]] 23:30, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Team Spirit in one box or two? ==
 
Putting them in both in the same box makes an ugly empty space under the black paint. I think it should be reverted to two separate boxes. [[User:Ríomhaire|Ríomhaire]] 13:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
: Just putting stuff in illogical extra boxes just because it looks nicer isn't the best of ideas. It's one item, and should be treated as such. --[[User:Tinker|Tinker]] 15:25, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:: Yeah it's one item. I can work on making that empty space better (even if it isn't ugly as you say). -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 15:29, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:::Perhaps make it take up both columns, with two full-size side-by-side color boxes?  Also, red then blue is probably better, as it's in that order in the icon and the in-game preview box as well. I'm not sure if that's possible though.  [[User:Unapologetically Bad|Unapologetically Bad]] 19:26, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Teamspirit, what is it ==
 
 
 
i don't understand how teamspirit paint works. help [[User:Jem|Jem]] 16:20, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:A hat painted with it will be red when you're on the RED team and blue when you're on the BLU team. Also please keep your signature next to your comment and not underneath. It makes comments harder to read. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 16:22, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Team Spirit pics for hats (Also, question) ==
 
 
 
Unless it's considered unnecessary, someone should start taking pictures of hats colored with Team Spirit. Quick question, though- would teamcoloring an already-teamcolored, painted hat be the same as reverting it back to its original teamcolors? (Sorry if the question seems confusing.) [[User:Satorifan|Satorifan]] 19:18, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:[[User:Pilk|Pilk]] is on it. Well painting over a hat removes the previous paint anyway so yes the paint won't do much on team coloured hats. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 19:20, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::To clarify (AFAIK), there's some uncertainty surrounding the actual RGB values of the paint colors. Pilk and others (AFAIK again) have been in contact with Robin about it, so screenshots are being delayed for now until the colors are confirmed (otherwise the shots taken may prove to be fairly inaccurate). [[User:Seb26|<font color="#0B61A4">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%;">[talk]</span>]] 04:28, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== 216-190-216 ==
 
 
 
"The "216-190-216" in the name of Color No. 216-190-216 is the RGB representation '''of its hexadecimal color code, #D8BED8.'''"
 
 
 
I removed the second part becuase "216-190-216" is not an RGB representation of the hex colour code, their's no such thing as an RGB representation of a hex colour code. RGB is the mix needed to create the colour, the hex colour code is actually a hexidecimal conversion of the RGB. [[User:DragonJTS|DragonJTS]] 04:17, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:Whether it be called a representation or a conversion, it's still true that R216, G190, and B216 will create #D8BEB8, and needs to be stated. But, thanks for clearing up the representation/conversion piece. [[User:TheMedik|TheMedik]] 05:04, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:DragonJTS is correct, that line doesn't make much sense:  Decimal and Hexadecimal are 2 ways of representing the same numbers:  Decimal is base 10 (counting 1-10), Hexadecimal is base 16: 1...10, A(11)...F(16).  We don't even need to mention the hexadecimal form as the game always uses it in decimal.  I've just added to the end of the line "...that items are painted with", it reads much better. -[[User:RJackson|<span class="burbg" style="margin-right:1px;text-shadow: #538237 1px 1px 0px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}} 09:11, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:I agree with DragonJTS and RJackson... this doesn't need to be stated.  The hexadecimal isn't really relevant if it's not what the game uses, like RJackson stated... If it's just representing a different representation of the color, then why are we not posting the CMYK, LAB, HSV, HSL, YUV, YIC, or Pantone color equivalents? Unless we're posting these color conversions for a reason, it doesn't make much sense. I don't see any good reason, so I don't think this should be in there. [[User:CptObvious|CptObvious]] 05:58, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 
: This was a derp on my behalf. I meant to say that it was good that he cleaned it up, and removed the confusion, but yeah. Medik is silly. [[User:TheMedik|TheMedik]] 06:00, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Alternative Paint Can list ==
 
 
 
Basically, this:
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable grid"
 
! class="header" | Image
 
! class="header" | Name
 
! class="header" | Color
 
! class="header" | Availability
 
|-
 
| [[File:Paint Can 7D4071.png|80px]]
 
| A Deep Commitment to Purple
 
| style="background:#7D4071" | <font color="white">#7D4071</font>
 
| Purchase, Drop, Uncrate (<small>#</small>2)
 
|}
 
 
 
Thoughts?--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 15:08, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:I prefer the current one - spread over 2 columns.  Though I do like the per-paint availability info. -[[User:RJackson|<span class="burbg" style="margin-right:1px;text-shadow: #538237 1px 1px 0px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}} 15:12, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 
::I too prefer the current one in terms of space, unfortunately such infos on it look crammed. Here's my best try:
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable grid"
 
! class="header" | Image
 
! class="header" | Name
 
! class="header" | Color
 
|-
 
| rowspan=2 | [[File:Paint Can 141414.png|80px]]
 
| style="height:65px;" | A Distinctive Lack of Hue
 
| rowspan=2 style="background:#141414;" | <font color="white">#141414</font>
 
|-
 
| <small>Purchase, Drop, Uncrate (#1, #3)</small>
 
|}
 
--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 15:26, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 
::wow that looks pretty good, better than the exsisting one i think [[User:HyenaDip|HyenaDip]] 15:30, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
My third attempt in two versions:
 
{| class="wikitable grid" width="100%"
 
! class="header" width=5% | Image
 
! class="header" width=20% | Name
 
! class="header" width=5% | Color
 
! class="header" width=10% | Availability
 
! class="header" width=5% | Image
 
! class="header" width=15% | Name
 
! class="header" width=5% | Color
 
! class="header" | Availability
 
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| rowspan=3 | [[File:Paint Can 141414.png|80px]]
 
| rowspan=3 style="height:65px;" | A Distinctive Lack of Hue
 
| rowspan=3 style="background:#141414;" | <font color="white">#141414</font>
 
| <small> {{Pro}} {{tooltip|Purchase| {{Item price|All|Paint Can|tooltips=no}} }}
 
| rowspan=3 | [[File:Paint Can E6E6E6.png|80px]]
 
| rowspan=3 style="height:65px;" | An Extraordinary Abundance of Tinge
 
| rowspan=3 style="background:#E6E6E6;" | #E6E6E6
 
| <small> {{Pro}} Purchase ({{Item price|All|Paint Can}})
 
|-
 
| <small> {{Con}} Drop
 
| <small> {{Con}} Drop
 
|-
 
| <small> {{Pro}} {{tooltip|Uncrate| #1, #3}}
 
| <small> {{Pro}} Uncrate (#1, #4)
 
|}
 
If only the ''Item price'' template would work into the ''Tooltip'' one... :|--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 11:39, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 
:{{c|done}} :D -<!--[[User:RJackson|<span class="modbg" style="margin-right:1px;text-shadow: #538237 1px 1px 0px;">RJ</span>]]<span class="modbg" style="margin-right:1px;text-shadow: #538237 1px 1px 0px;">s</span>-->[[File:User_RJackson_Signature_Colon_DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.png|link=User:RJackson|200px]] 12:00, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
 
::Tell me how I can +rep you. NAO. :D--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 12:59, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Paint Color Implementation Update? (Dec 2) ==
 
 
 
After the December 2 update, I instantly noticed that my Indubitably Green Mann Co. Cap, which originally retained a tinge of it's original color, now has a much more vibrant and can-accurate color, yet I notice that no one else has noticed this. Can anyone else verify this change? [[User:Mariner1712|Mariner1712]] 18:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
Okay, I see that at least [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Stewsta Stewsta] has been [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=File%3APainted_Mann_Co._Cap_729E42.png&htmldiff=Visual+comparison&diff=234342&oldid=112417 updating the painted item previews] I think we should at least note the color implementation change in the main page, if not on all painted items. [[User:Mariner1712|Mariner1712]] 18:25, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== December 10 Paint Additions ==
 
 
 
http://gyazo.com/5e9696006f74afa0fe7309860b9586bd.png
 
Chart was made by Octo Pie
 
[[User:DDSN|DDSN]] 01:31, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
:Thanks! Did you guess the colors? [[User:Whiplash|Whiplash]] 01:46, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
::The colors are shown somewhere in the game files, as RGB codes.[[User:DDSN|DDSN]] 02:38, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 
::This is kind of a noob question, but I took screenshots of the painted Capotain, how do I upload them if there aren't already versions in that slot? [[User:HellJumper|HellJumper]] 04:29, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
Hi, im new and not really sure what im doing, just letting someone know that the new paints and black and white paints are now avaliable in the mann co store for $2.50
 
Anyone who is able to edit the page should add that information as it says new paints can only be unboxed.
 
 
 
Thanks to whoever updates this and sorry if this is in the completely wrong spot :/[[User:Afrochicken0|Afrochicken0]] 03:18, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Typo in the translation of the painted hats. ==
 
 
 
My question, the "This item is not paintable", where is it stored for the translation (as in, what template), because there is kinda a retarded typo in it, in English it would be like "These item is not paintable", so if anyone could give me the correct template link to it, I can fix it. [[User:PredatorDuck|PredatorDuck]] 13:34, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 
:Nevermind, I found it. It was in "Template:Painted Items/row", but I forgot that alot of pieces of code were hidden. [[User:PredatorDuck|PredatorDuck]] 13:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
 
 
== Team Spirit Price ==
 
The page lists the price of Team Spirit as the same as the other paints. I checked the item price core template and everything seems to be in order. Any ideas, guys?--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] {{mod}} 07:46, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:I've checked: apparently the page name overrides the template parameter. Copy-paste in non-purchasable item pages (i.e. SCOUT) returns NULLNULLNULL, on Dueling Mini Game returns 0.99, etc. '''EDIT:''' Problem found, I'll fix it right now (missing "item=" before item name).--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 08:16, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
 
 
== New Teamcolor Paint Hex Values ==
 
Here ya go: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1704282 [[User:The Riet|The Riet]] 23:10, 23 June 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
Something wrong with Paint Cans (Pics, Colour Paint, Paint Cans):
 
 
 
'''An Air of Debonair'''
 
Red Can: Blue Color
 
Blue Can: Red Color
 
Wrong Pic on Wiki! (Check in-game store)
 
 
 
'''Balaclavas are Forever'''
 
Red Can: Blue Color
 
Blue Can: Red Color
 
Wrong Pic on Wiki! (Check in-game store)
 
 
 
'''Operator's Overall'''
 
Red Can: Blue Color
 
Blue Can: Red Color
 
Wrong Pic on Wiki! (Check in-game store)
 
 
 
'''The Value of Teamwork'''
 
Red Can: Blue Color
 
Blue Can: Red Color
 
Wrong Pic on Wiki! (Check in-game store)
 
 
 
'''Waterlogged Lab Coat'''
 
Red Can: Blue Color
 
Blue Can: Red Color
 
Wrong Pic on Wiki! (Check in-game store)
 
[[User:RusTORK|RusTORK]] 00:02, 27 June 2011 (PDT)
 
Bought Balaclavas are Forever and and painted Ellis Cap. It's work correct to teams (Blue are Blue and Red are Red), but pic in store are wrong![[User:RusTORK|RusTORK]] 00:31, 27 June 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Origin of Team Spirit ==
 
 
 
Since were describing where the colors of the other Team paints are coming now, since there are more than one, it may be worth mentioning that the original Team Spirit is the exact same color as Medic's gloves.[[User:CidTheNinja|CidTheNinja]] 20:35, 1 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== "Hair" Hat Paint Previews?  ==
 
 
 
Some of the screenshots for the painted variants of Hair Hats such as the Professor's Peculiarity or the Coupe D'isastre show it on the characters head. I feel this is the better method of displaying them, however for many others (Magistrate's Mullet, Hound Dog, Big Country etc.) this isn't the case. Could we get some sort of standardization on this? [[User:Baz|Baz]] 12:53, 3 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:I think that's just how they're displayed in the store. --'''[[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|Blether]]''' · '''[[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|Contreebs]])</small> 16:42, 3 July 2011 (PDT)
 
::Do we necessarily have to follow by that? [[User:Baz|Baz]] 18:25, 3 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:::Well yes, the preview images are the same ones provided in the preview section of the store page. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|Blether]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|Contreebs]])</small> 20:04, 3 July 2011 (PDT)
 
::::Surely with the Source tools one could take screenshots of each painted variant on the characters head, no? [[User:Baz|Baz]] 23:20, 3 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:::::They could, but again there is already a preview section on the store page which can display a moveable 3D model of the hat on any class it is compatible with and in any colour. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|Blether]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|Contreebs]])</small> 02:14, 4 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Team Spirit Problem? ==
 
 
 
I seem to be having some problems with Team Spirit paints. Anything that I painted pre-Summer event is now stuck on RED paint. Items painted post-summer event work fine, though. Is this normal or is something wrong on my end? [[User:Thesix|Thesix]] 13:42, 17 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
==Paint Description==
 
Would it be possible to add a small description to the new team-coloured paints to explain their origins, for example: "''Waterlogged Lab Coat - Based on the colour of the Medic's coat''". That kind of thing. I think it would be useful information to have on the page. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|Blether]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|Contreebs]])</small> 16:44, 3 August 2011 (PDT)
 
:I might be understanding you wrong, but this information is already in the trivia section. -- <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 02:34, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
 
::Well, look at that. I fail again. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|Blether]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|Contreebs]])</small> 02:39, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Cream Spirit/Team Spirit? ==
 
 
 
I understand that Team Spirit is based off of the Class "Emblems", but I just want to make sure:
 
 
 
Is Cream Spirit the background colour of said "Emblems"?
 
 
 
It certainly appears as though, and considering the names are obviously similar, it would make more sense that "Cream Spirit" was based off this than the Engineer's Gloves, though that is a solid theory. I would just like to confirm it. Is there a way anybody could confirm for me?
 
 
 
Right now, I'll put this, but if I'm wrong, then feel free to restore it to it's previous status.
 
 
 
[[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 16:01, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 
: Cream Spirit is basically the shades of yellow used for RED and BLU, not just the Engie's gloves, so yeah, it probably is used on the emblems. [[File:User RagnarHomsar Userlink.png]] [[User:RagnarHomsar|RagnarHomsar]] 16:02, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 
:: It's based on the color used on the contribute page color table. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 16:03, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 
::: Well, by that logic, all the Team Paint colours are based off the "Contribute!" page colour palette. [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 06:03, 30 August 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Team Spirit drops now? ==
 
 
 
Team Spirit has been changed to say it drops randomly, is this true?[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 06:31, 7 September 2011 (PDT)
 
:I haven't seen anything to suggest that this is true, and it is the first edit by the user who made the edit.  How could we source this?  [[User:ButteredToast|ButteredToast]] 06:51, 7 September 2011 (PDT)
 
::I'm not certain, but if it had begun to drop, I'm farily certain that there would have been an update note on it if it had happened.[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 06:55, 7 September 2011 (PDT)
 
:::Hang on, I'll ask the user what their source is.[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 07:02, 7 September 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Neat little fact ==
 
 
 
You guys know about the team-colored paint splotches that appear when you inspect someone's items, right? Well using a custom weapon plugin, I gave a Righteous Bison attributes 142 and 261 (set item rgb tint 1, and 2), and set the RED team paint to Pink as Hell, and the BLU team paint to Bitter Taste of Defeat and Lime. When I gave a fellow teammate the weapon on my server, and inspected him, the paint splotch that appeared was half pink and half green. As well, the Righteous Bison's particle colors changed to pink/green respectively, based on team which means that the Righteous Bison could potentially be paintable in the future. But that paint splotch thing was interesting because it means we could some day see custom team-colored paint combinations like Australium Gold (RED) and Pink as Hell (BLU). '''[[User:404 User Not Found|404: User Not Found]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:404_User_Not_Found|(talk)]]</sup> 15:47, 23 November 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
:Nice work on finding that out! I vote this should be mentioned in the trivia section. It is useful information for users of custom weapon plugins, and seems to me like there'd be a lot of demand for a choice in team colored hats; especially seeing as some colors look better on BLU than on RED. In all likelihood, it is probably a feature, not a bug, that we may see implemented soon. '''[[User:Chronohawk|Chronohawk;]]''' 01:51, 25 November 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
::I'll grab a screenshot or two to illustrate the "paint splotch" thing I mentioned above and post them tomorrow. Personally, if the info isn't already there, I'd add the info about the Righteous Bison's particles using the same method of team coloring as the Cow Mangler's particles, to the [[Righteous Bison]] article. As for the paint splotch, I was messing around with creating a weapon that uses the "tf_weapon_raygun" class name, and Stock Pistol weapon ID to create a Laser Pistol. I then decided to mess around with the two paint can attributes (142, 261) and found that the RB's particles are indeed colorable. Australium Gold is my favorite, and whatever the Black paint is called, that just makes the particles hard to see and sort-of black. But yeah, I'd definitely add that note about the Bison's particles using the paint method of being colored, just like the Cow Mangler 5000's particles use. '''[[User:404 User Not Found|404: User Not Found]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:404_User_Not_Found|(talk)]]</sup> 02:24, 25 November 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
:::Unfortunately this is not an undeniable indicator that Valve want to make weapons paintable. The simple fact is that the ability to colour items through using material proxies came BEFORE the ability to paint things did. This is why some items appear "paintable" (like the Bison) when they actually aren't, and aren't really intended to be. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sup>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sup> 02:28, 25 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::And to pre-empt a possible response, the reason they are getting around to it now is because:
 
:::# It's more efficient to colour an item using proxies (versus using two textures) and
 
:::# DX8 now has support for it - before there was never much of a reason to add the support. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sup>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sup> 02:32, 25 November 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
::::Yeah I knew all of that. I was still hoping they might make the weapons paintable though, as Valve has stated something along the lines of "if demand is high enough we might do it" (I forget the exact wording). And I just made the connection between the paint attributes and the paint splotch halves, so that's obviously intended functionality, and not a glitch or anything, so I guess I don't need to post a screenshot, though I will post one if anyone wants to see a half Pink half Lime Green "team color paint splotch". '''[[User:404 User Not Found|404: User Not Found]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:404_User_Not_Found|(talk)]]</sup> 04:06, 25 November 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
== New colors ==
 
 
 
I'm pretty sure the new colors are a reference to After Eight mints (The dark green like the box, and the mint like the, well mint obviously).
 
 
 
== This page isn't very good. ==
 
 
 
Each Paint should have it's own page, or at least Item sets. This page also does not include prices, nor ''' anything''' about the paints. It lack much information, and I believe it should be improved. Also, wasn't A Deep Commitment to Purple the first item in TF2 ever? And is it's name referencing the band Deep Purple in any way? [[User:ErnieTheGreatest|ErnieTheGreatest]] 16:10, 5 March 2012 (PST)
 
:There has been a discussion about separate paint pages before, found [[Team_Fortress_Wiki:Discussion/Archive_14#Paint_Pages|here]]. I agree the prices should be included in the table. I'm not sure what other information you feel is lacking? There is only so much you can say about paint cans. How could a paint can be the first item in TF2 ever if you need other items to paint? Also, just noticed the prices are included as tooltips on 'purchase'. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 20:24, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
::I think he means "item" as in the "Item" (Tool) category — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:34, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
 
 
== a DEEP commitment to PURPLE ==
 
 
 
I really think that the name of the paint is a reference to Deep Purple. --[[User:Hawk18727|Hawk18727]] 01:17, 28 April 2012 (PDT)
 
:This should be noted... the band is from the 70s. [[User:ErnieTheGreatest|ErnieTheGreatest]] ([[User talk:ErnieTheGreatest|talk]]) 19:38, 18 January 2014 (PST)
 
::This should also be noted: The previous comment was 1.5 years ago. Please be more conscientious of this. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 20:13, 18 January 2014 (PST)
 
 
 
== Fixed translation ==
 
 
 
In the italian translation, the trivia translates "Diamonds are forever" literally, while the italian version of the title is different. I've changed it to the actual title of the film. --[[User:LucaP1000|LucaP1000]] 08:23, 4 June 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Pink As Hell Trivia ==
 
 
 
Adding trivia "The name Pink as Hell is a reference to the german word Hell, which means light or bright." [[User:Spyder Vitrea|Spyder Vitrea]] ([[User talk:Spyder Vitrea|talk]]) 11:12, 28 June 2013 (PDT)
 
 
 
: I removed this trivia since it's rather speculative. "Hell" can mean a lot of different things in many different languages, like "Luck" in Norwegian, "Skewer" in Albanian or "Tender" in Estonian. "X as hell" is simply an expression and I think looking for a reference to German is (very fittingly) a Hineininterpretierung. [[User:Eels|<span style="color:#ff7722;font-size:10px';"><b>Eels</b></span>]] 11:20, 28 June 2013 (PDT)
 
 
 
:: I thought because the pink is a bright pink that that was the most appropriate language for a trivia, and that the "x as hell" combined with the bright pink nature of the item formed a rather smart pun. I defer to your experience, though. [[User:Spyder Vitrea|Spyder Vitrea]] ([[User talk:Spyder Vitrea|talk]]) 11:23, 28 June 2013 (PDT)
 
 
 
== paint splats ==
 
 
 
I think they should be moved from the gallery into the table so it doesnt take up so much space and makes it easier to look at
 
[[User:ErnieTheGreatest|ErnieTheGreatest]] ([[User talk:ErnieTheGreatest|talk]]) 19:35, 18 January 2014 (PST)
 
:How would a table be much more compact than the gallery? [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 20:13, 18 January 2014 (PST)
 
::I kind of agree with this - galleries are for example images of the items the article is centred on. What we have here is a list of nearly-identical images, all of slightly different colours, with nearly-identical descriptions. I just think this would suit table styling better, maybe in the same form as the painted images on a cosmetic item page. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 09:40, 19 January 2014 (PST)
 
:::[[User:Cooper Kid/Template:Paint table|Here's an example]] of what I mean. Just threw this together in notepad - it could be refined and cut down (a lot) if it's implemented. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 10:17, 19 January 2014 (PST)
 
 
 
== Paint Categories  ==
 
 
 
I was just wondering if we could divide the paint into different categories, like "Only Available from Purchase" and other categories that fit each one? [[User:Legomaster445|Legomaster445]] ([[User talk:Legomaster445|talk]]) 09:30, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
 
:Due to the variety of availabilities, it's more straightforward to simply indicate the sources for each paint. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 09:58, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
 

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