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| − | Shouldn't this page contain a reference to wrestling legend The Honky Tonk Man? It's no accident that the taunt kill achievement uses that moniker. Honky Tonk Man famously hitting Jake "The Snake" Roberts with a guitar is amongst the legendary moments in wrestling. I wanted to edit that in, but the page can't be edited. [[User:Sjtnk|Sjtnk]] 07:59, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | I just decided to use the name 'Guitar' since I didn't know if it had an actual name. Does anyone know if it has an official name? Should we leave it at 'guitar'? Should we change it to 'EL KABONG!'? --[[User:André the Accelerator|André the Accelerator]] 01:57, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Kabong would be awesome IMO. [[User:OluapPlayer|OluapPlayer]] 02:02, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Since his other taunt is affectionately named 'Organ Grinder' I think that 'Kabong!' or 'El Kabong' would fit better, so can we get a name change?--[[User:André the Accelerator|André the Accelerator]] 02:06, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::Kabong! would be good.--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 02:31, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::So uh, what name you guys want? --[[User:Vi3trice|Vi3trice]] 02:32, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::Oh! How about '''Death Note'''?--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 03:09, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::'''No.''' Really, just no. You know why I'm saying that. I'd rather call it Sonata of Death. --[[User:Vi3trice|Vi3trice]] 03:12, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::I like Kabong! — [[User:WindPower|WindPower]] 03:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Then Kabong! is it. --[[User:Vi3trice|Vi3trice]] 03:29, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::Not Kabong. That's horrible. Makes '''NO''' sense. I'm thinking of a better name. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 10:42, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::You don't get the reference then, the move and sound are from Quick Draw McGraw's [[Wikipedia:The Quick Draw McGraw Show|(Wikipedia)]] alter ego "El Kabong"[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmemBa1HAzU] which was a cartoon made from 1959-1962, it was also later a professional wrestling move[[Wikipedia:Professional wrestling attacks#El Kabong|(Wikipedia)]]. Regardless of what people like, that is the reference. "El Kabong" would be the correct name for the move. --[[User:Xeroproject|Xeroproject]] 18:58, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::How about something more guitar-related like TWANG! -- [[User:SgtWoodsy|SgtWoodsy]] 11:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::::Have any problem with Quick Draw McGraw, punk? [[User:OluapPlayer|OluapPlayer]] 11:20, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::::To the guy who said it made no sense: EL KABONG! [[User:Song!|Song!]] 12:22, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Twang! I like Twang! -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 12:12, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :NOOOOOOO... I'd even prefer "Kabong!" (It sounds so weird!) over "Twang!" (It's even weirder!)[[User:The Neotank|The Neotank]] 12:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Fine, but Kabong is awful. Something to do with Guitar smashing? -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 12:17, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::Frankly, I'd just go with "Guitar." It's boring and plain, but it works. [[User:The Neotank|The Neotank]] 12:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::How about "Honky Smash"? -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 12:45, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::I HAVE IT! "Honky Konk!" Play on words with Honky Tonk and Konk means knock out. It's perfect. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 12:51, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::How about "Six String Sting"? '''''[[User:Siphida|Siphida]]'''''<sup>''[[User talk:Siphida|talk]]''</sup> 13:01, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::Or, Honky Konk? -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 13:03, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::::Isn't 'Honky' a racial slur? '''''[[User:Siphida|Siphida]]'''''<sup>''[[User talk:Siphida|talk]]''</sup> 13:05, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::::Against white people, yes. Mind you, white people don't exactly have the best track record for preaching racial tolerance. Anyway, I think Kabong! is better. I mean, the homage is there and everything! [[User:Noizeblaze|Noizeblaze]] 13:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::::::Honky Tonk is a type of bar in the South USA. No racial slur there. Kabong sounds like some weird drug thing. I truly hate it. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 13:35, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::::::I'm personally liking six string stinger. It's in that achievement name, so it's almost official! --[[User:Wilsonator|Wilsonator]] 19:05, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::::::I think "Guitar" got the point across, at least until we have a proper name. Kabong! doesn't make any sense. --[[User:Janitor|Janitor]] 17:22, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::::::: I say keep it as Kabong! It makes perfect sense if you get the reference.--[[User:EvilDeadFan|EDF]] 19:33, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | '''THE CASE FOR KEEPING IT AS KABONG'''--- This is why it needs to be Kabong! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmemBa1HAzU ... I'm willing to bet the devs were at least inspired by this. - [[User:Goose511th|Goose511th]] 21:18, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::::::: Good to see my choice is still holding strong.--[[User:André the Accelerator|André the Accelerator]] 05:53, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | I'm all for "EL KABONG." <small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:Radiant Bonk|Radiant Bonk]] ([[User talk:Radiant Bonk|talk]]) • [[Special:Contributions/Radiant Bonk|contribs]]) </small>
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| − | :"El Kabong" is the same name of what it's referencing, and it might be copyrighted by Hanna-Barbera (most likely not, but you never know). Just '''Kabong''' is close enough so that any simpleton will get the connection. Most people seem to be prefering that over "Guitar" but I'm okay with either one.--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 08:20, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::How about "Dischord"? No racial slur and no strange reference that a few people get and others don't. And it's simple enough. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 11:16, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::Can we do polls or something? --[[User:Vi3trice|Vi3trice]] 13:52, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::No. I'm changing it to Dischord later. This name may be a reference that a few people get and that's all fine and dandy. But not everyone gets it and we're here for all people not a few that watch cartoons. So unless anyone comes up with another good idea for a name, it's Dischord. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 16:10, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::We could add a note that it may have been inspired by this El Kabong fella, although I even doubt that. People smash guitars on stage all the time. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 16:12, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Please, why doing it later when I can do it now? Ninja. --[[User:Vi3trice|Vi3trice]] 16:29, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::You do realize that the reason it was suggested was because the guitars are similar as well as their choice of weapon right? Just saying, it wouldn't work with a rock guitar or any other type. [[User:Antwan|Antwan]] 21:05, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::: "Dischord" is terribly boring, if not "Kabong!" then we should \think about a name for it that at least sounds a little bit more exciting, kind of how the arrow taunt for the Huntsman was changed to the name "Skewer" to sound a little more exciting itself. --[[User:EvilDeadFan|EDF]] 02:34, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::Kabong! looks like an obvious choice, the attack is the same and the guitar looks the same, too. Dischord is just sorta punny. [[User:Anonynja|Anonynja]] 03:05, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::I like how this is being overruled by somebody who obviously isn't familiar with the culture that spawned the taunt. Never got to see Quick Draw in the UK eh? And also wanting to avoid polls. Somebody drop an email on Robin and see if we can get pointed at Valve's actual source. [[User:Xeroproject|Xeroproject]] 08:11, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | How about "Honky Bonk"? [[User:NovaSilisko|NovaSilisko]] 05:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :"Stinger" maybe? [[User:Shine|Shine]] 06:58, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Racism is lame and imaginated excuse, methinks Kabong! is It. [[User:Ostrowiak|Ostrowiak]] 07:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :I agree with Wilsonator. I like "Six String Stinger" as well. -- [[User:En Ex|En Ex]] 11:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::It might get confused with the achievement, which is why none of the others have their achievement names, (except the Heavy's which I was planning on changing to "Pow!" anyway) -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 11:26, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::I think "Showdown" is distinct enough from "Show Trial" that people wouldn't get confused (especially with the achievement on the same page and all). Maybe this one should have a name that refers to the Frontier Justice, since that's the weapon you use to activate the taunt. Maybe something like "Justice Smash" (or something better, that's not the best). --[[User:PieGuy64|PieGuy64]] 17:48, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Woodtellica? Clang? The Slammer? Sharp Note? FLAT face-off? 6-Stringer? (Yes, i know they're crap) [[User:OllyTheMann|OllyTheMann]] 17:36, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :How about we just leave it at '''Gituar''' for now until we can agree on a name?--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 05:30, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::I'm sure naming it complete with typo is a great idea. I'm fine with Dischord, personally. -- [[User:SgtWoodsy|SgtWoodsy]] 10:34, 12 July 2010 (UTC
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| − | :::I think "Kabong!" is absolutely fine the way it is. And besides, almost everyone here likes it, bar one or two people. [[User:Metford|Metford]] 20:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | O.K christ no idea how the editing Effing works! but I think that ->Headache Blues<- is a goodname. (IXIFatTonyIXI @ 22:34 on saturday 24/07/2010 - London,England) ...Now apollogies for f****ing up this page but i wanted to make a suggestion(Would appreciate if someone could format this if they care? please?) <small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:IXIFatTonyIXI|IXIFatTonyIXI]] ([[User talk:IXIFatTonyIXI|talk]]) • [[Special:Contributions/IXIFatTonyIXI|contribs]]) </small>
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| − | :Bah, don't worry about it, this page's format is pretty much broken already. Just sign your comment with four tildes (~) like it says at the top. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] {{mod}} 22:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Another Idea inspired by the name of the Acheivment to go with it: "Honk Tonk Slam" heh,Heh.=)...as for the damn tildes i cant find the key for it on my ketboard 'n had to copy'n paste from that green box although i have no idea what to do with them?(IXIFatTonyIXI @ 4:10 Sunday 25/07/2010 Still in London ... Inserting four tildes after theese brackets incase it works *Shrugs* actually strike the above nosense about tildes ive just seen the preview button ah. -_- )[[User:IXIFatTonyIXI|IXIFatTonyIXI]] 03:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | So, is the name still in discussion, or can we remove that notice from the article? -- [[User:OluapPlayer|<font color="red">'''OluapPlayer'''</font>]] <sub>([[User_talk:OluapPlayer|t]])</sub> {{adm}} [[File:User OluapPlayer Sig.png|Howdy, pardner!]] 17:07, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Over with. -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{mod}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 17:14, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == The chord ==
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| − | It is an E natural, not an E9, I checked myself on a well-tuned guitar against the Engineer's taunt. Please check something before you edit. -- [[User:Song!|Song!]] 14:02, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Really? I heard an E, F sharp, G sharp, B and a top E, which constitutes E9 or Emaj9. Well, I don't have a guitar to hand, so my apologies. --[[User:Tentacle|Tentacle]] 22:22, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::It's not really a big deal, so don't worry about it. -- [[User:Song!|Song!]] 23:50, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::E natural is a note, not a chord. E major is the correct terminology.
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| − | :::::Thanks for reminding me, didn't even think about that. And thanks for specifying the exact chord, Tentacle. [[user:Song!|Song!]] 20:P53, 13 July (UTC)
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| − | :::: Yeah, I'm hearing an E major --[[User:Firestorm|<span style="color:#FF6600;text-decoration:underline;font-weight:bold;"><tt><big>Firestorm</big></tt></span>]] {{mod}} 05:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Actually, we're all wrong. It's Eadd9. [http://www.8notes.com/guitar_chord_chart/Eadd9.asp Lookie here] - it's the first one. [[User:Tentacle|Tentacle]] 11:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | "During the [[Scream Fortress]] event, when attempting to perform the Dischord taunt, but instead performing the [[Taunts#Thriller Taunt|Thriller taunt]], several guitar gibs would still fall out of the player."
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| − | At the moment , i don't think its Necessary to keep it there since the bug won't (Properly) appear until the next Screamfortress event which whould take a while to wait .--[[User:Gin Ginster|Heroic Ginster]] 15:10, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | No, seriously. I am wondering if anyone out there with a good guitar ear can comment on the tuning? (If there is anything noteworthy.) Is it well tuned? Standard tune? [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 16:43, 9 September 2014 (PDT)
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| − | :I have an acoustic steel string guitar, I can tell you in a few minutes or so. [[User:DC64|DC64]] ([[User talk:DC64|talk]]) 17:06, 9 September 2014 (PDT)
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| − | ::BTW, I have seen the appellation “Six-String Stinger” applied to no less than the 59 Gibson Les Paul Stinger, this more your bailiwick? [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 18:20, 9 September 2014 (PDT)
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| − | :::It appears to be in tune, comparing notes and the tuning that last those few half seconds. I think the chord structure, when comparing fingerings is sounds slightly different than a standard Eadd9 chord, possibly in first inversion. The tuning may not be noteworthy, although the chord name is. The specific notes of that chord may not be, but that's up to discussion. [[User:DC64|DC64]] ([[User talk:DC64|talk]]) 18:42, 9 September 2014 (PDT)
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