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Hey there, just a quick message about your cosmetic link changes. You shouldn't make them <nowiki>[[Cosmetic items | cosmetic item]]</nowiki>, the format used across almost all pages is <nowiki>[[Cosmetic items|cosmetic item]]</nowiki>. Thanks. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 07:40, 30 April 2014 (PDT)
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Sorry but, what is the difference?  Mine uses spaces and those do not? If so, i'll change it. [[User:Zenzile|Zenzile]] ([[User talk:Zenzile|talk]]) 07:45, 30 April 2014 (PDT)
-- [[User:Carez|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#476291 ">Carez</span>]] [[File:Killicon_conscientious_objector.png|40px|link=User:Carez]] [[File:Speech voice.png|20px|link=User talk:Carez]] 01:19, 5 September 2012 (PDT)
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: Yeah, your one has spaces either side of the pipe, while almost all other pages won't have the spaces either side. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 07:48, 30 April 2014 (PDT)
  
== Summary swearing... ==
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== Your Userpage ==
  
Could you please be more respectful in your summaries. Not everyone speaks English as there main language, and i'm also very far away from being perfect, but to write such rude and hurting summaries is something i can not tolerate. Be warned that such a behavior is a fast way of being blocked from editing. Case file: [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/?diff=1147133 1], [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Pocket_Purrer&diff=prev&oldid=1147134 2], [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Birdcage&diff=prev&oldid=1147129 3] . [[User:TheDoctor|δ³Σx²]] 10:45, 9 September 2012 (PDT)
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Is there any problem if I borrow you user page and edit to my info? I just don't want too spend a lot of time editing an userpage, I don't even want to make that fancy, but at least have easy links for my Steam Profile, Contributions and etc. [[User:Gabrielwoj|Gabrielwoj]] ([[User talk:Gabrielwoj|talk]]) 10:44, 2 May 2014 (PDT)
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:Haha, my page is basically a compilation of borrowed and tweaked templates. That would be fine if you want to use them! [[User:Zenzile|Zenzile]] ([[User talk:Zenzile|talk]]) 07:21, 9 May 2014 (PDT)
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:: Okay, thanks. I'll later organize my User Page and make something organized. I hope. [[User:Gabrielwoj|Gabrielwoj]] ([[User talk:Gabrielwoj|talk]]) 07:43, 9 May 2014 (PDT)
  
:Alright I'm sorry about my summary's there.  I'll make sure it doesn't happen again.  It just gets frustrating when people put hardly any effort into their edits such as this.[[User:Zenzile|Zenzile]] 11:02, 9 September 2012 (PDT)
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== Cosmetic fix project is done! ==
  
:: I recommend reading the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style Wikipedia Manual of Style], particularly, their sections on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing Editing] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_summary Edit Summaries].  
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The mini project was finished. Every item page has been edited to "cosmetic" instead of hat or misc items. However, keep your eyes open in any cosmetic related pages, some pages like updates and other information may still have hat or misc instead of cosmetic items.
  
:: Belittling people for their edits or starting edit wars is not the goal of this Wiki. Try to explain in specifics what you are doing in the edit summaries and cite the relevant policies for a removal or major edit. If you have a major dispute, try to explain in the appropriate talk page, whether it be the user's or the page's.
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[Be careful while editing pages with hats/misc informations, some of these need to kept since they have been obtained from the original source. However, informations that have been written by wiki editors might be editable. [See [[Classless Update]] for a good page example]]
  
:: Additionally, take a look at the [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Template:Welcome Welcome Template] for suggestions and helpful links when welcoming a new user. [[File:User_Upgrade_Signature.png|link=User:Upgrade]] 16:10, 9 September 2012 (PDT)
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For another example, don't change "Hatless" update to "Cosmeticless". That was the name of the update and wasn't changed, and this must be kept.
  
Upgrade, just wondering but did you read what I previously said?  You're basically restating exactly what TheDoctor said.  I get it don't put hurtful summarys.  Also why are you sending my style links?  I know about these.  [[User:Zenzile|Zenzile]] 17:09, 9 September 2012 (PDT)
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Even another example, don't change the update notes that have been obtained directly from the Steam Powered TF2 Update news, if it's written "hats" or "miscs", keep it like that.
: This is a formal declaration and an additional friendly reminder about the general Code of Conduct. I hope you have a pleasant day. [[File:User_Upgrade_Signature.png|link=User:Upgrade]] 01:28, 10 September 2012 (PDT)
 
  
:: Alright thank you. [[User:Zenzile|Zenzile]] 06:09, 10 September 2012 (PDT)
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Thank you for your work with the cosmetic fixes.
  
== Item schema ==
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[[User:Gabrielwoj|Gabrielwoj]] ([[User talk:Gabrielwoj|talk]]) 18:06, 3 May 2014 (PDT)
  
Hello. I'd like to warn you not to take the schema too seriously, as there are several infos on items that are not true in the actual game. First, all HHHH's receive a random 1-100 level when dropped, which means [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Horseless_Headless_Horsemann%27s_Headtaker&diff=1153536&oldid=1153530 your edit was wrong]. Also, info about the schema being misled, such as in the Lo-Fi case, [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Lo-Fi_Longwave&diff=next&oldid=1153531 does not constitute trivia]. Please examine your facts before adding them to the Wiki. Thank you. {{n}} [[User:EpicEric|<span style="color:#5885A2;font-size:15px;font-family:'Trebuchet MS';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;"><b>Epic Eric</b></span>]] <small> ([[User talk:EpicEric|T]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/EpicEric|C]])</small> 16:16, 19 September 2012 (PDT)
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== Let's talk about character voiceover ==
  
: Considering that any item can be any level whoever or whatever with access to the item granting stuff can set any level they or it wants, I would say that the schema is an acceptable default in cases where we are unsure of a certain attribute. Such as the lo-fi longwave. The schema is meant only as a base for backpack specific items to overwrite. Imagine a pre-filled form, where you can leave and overwrite what you don't want. So no, don't take the schema too seriously, but do use it in the item infobox when it's appropriate. Which it is most of the time. -- [[User:Lagg|Lagg]] [[File:Backpack_Stickybomb_Launcher.png|24px|link=User_talk:Lagg]] 17:46, 19 September 2012 (PDT)
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I fail to understand how your logic of why you decided to undo all my recent edits to improve this wiki. You didn't really explainyour reasonign behind why you removed my improvement, or explained how character voice over ISN'T just trivia. Please explain.
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:Alright, first off, I'd like to thank you for putting such effort into improving the wiki!  I should have explained better myself.  First off, trivia should not restate things from the page so I am unsure it should be there to begin with.  However, this trivia was showing simply how the demo and heavy, despite the difference in voices, are voiced by the same guy.  As well, the voice actor is an important part of the character. It is not a small thing to go into the trivia and should remain in the bio as it is important to the character.  I gave an example of weapons. I feel listing the voice actor is similar to listing the creator of an item, which does not go into trivia either.  As well, the voice actor has remained listed there for a very long time. [[User:Zenzile|Zenzile]] ([[User talk:Zenzile|talk]]) 07:01, 15 May 2014 (PDT)

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Cosmetics links

Hey there, just a quick message about your cosmetic link changes. You shouldn't make them [[Cosmetic items | cosmetic item]], the format used across almost all pages is [[Cosmetic items|cosmetic item]]. Thanks. --Omolong (talk) 07:40, 30 April 2014 (PDT)

Sorry but, what is the difference?  Mine uses spaces and those do not? If so, i'll change it. Zenzile (talk) 07:45, 30 April 2014 (PDT)
Yeah, your one has spaces either side of the pipe, while almost all other pages won't have the spaces either side. --Omolong (talk) 07:48, 30 April 2014 (PDT)

Your Userpage

Is there any problem if I borrow you user page and edit to my info? I just don't want too spend a lot of time editing an userpage, I don't even want to make that fancy, but at least have easy links for my Steam Profile, Contributions and etc. Gabrielwoj (talk) 10:44, 2 May 2014 (PDT)

Haha, my page is basically a compilation of borrowed and tweaked templates. That would be fine if you want to use them! Zenzile (talk) 07:21, 9 May 2014 (PDT)
Okay, thanks. I'll later organize my User Page and make something organized. I hope. Gabrielwoj (talk) 07:43, 9 May 2014 (PDT)

Cosmetic fix project is done!

The mini project was finished. Every item page has been edited to "cosmetic" instead of hat or misc items. However, keep your eyes open in any cosmetic related pages, some pages like updates and other information may still have hat or misc instead of cosmetic items.

[Be careful while editing pages with hats/misc informations, some of these need to kept since they have been obtained from the original source. However, informations that have been written by wiki editors might be editable. [See Classless Update for a good page example]]

For another example, don't change "Hatless" update to "Cosmeticless". That was the name of the update and wasn't changed, and this must be kept.

Even another example, don't change the update notes that have been obtained directly from the Steam Powered TF2 Update news, if it's written "hats" or "miscs", keep it like that.

Thank you for your work with the cosmetic fixes.

Gabrielwoj (talk) 18:06, 3 May 2014 (PDT)

Let's talk about character voiceover

I fail to understand how your logic of why you decided to undo all my recent edits to improve this wiki. You didn't really explainyour reasonign behind why you removed my improvement, or explained how character voice over ISN'T just trivia. Please explain.

Alright, first off, I'd like to thank you for putting such effort into improving the wiki! I should have explained better myself. First off, trivia should not restate things from the page so I am unsure it should be there to begin with. However, this trivia was showing simply how the demo and heavy, despite the difference in voices, are voiced by the same guy. As well, the voice actor is an important part of the character. It is not a small thing to go into the trivia and should remain in the bio as it is important to the character. I gave an example of weapons. I feel listing the voice actor is similar to listing the creator of an item, which does not go into trivia either. As well, the voice actor has remained listed there for a very long time. Zenzile (talk) 07:01, 15 May 2014 (PDT)