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¡Te lo dije! Iba a ser mucho mejor de lo que me imaginaba.
Wheatley sobre un intercambio realizado.
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Los consejos de la comunidad para intercambios son una recopilación de recomendaciones para los usuarios más novatos en Team Fortress 2 acerca de los objetos y el sistema de intercambio de Steam.

Valor de los objetos

En general, el valor de los objetos se basa en su rareza, que se conforma por su dificultad o precio para conseguirlos. Por tanto, lo raro que es un objeto suele ir vinculado con su calidad. Es decir, las armas Únicas, que se obtienen de forma aleatoria, suelen ser los objetos de menos valor, ya que se pueden obtener jugando o mediante fabricación. Algunas pueden tener algo más de valor si, por ejemplo, tienen un nivel específico (42, 69 o el 100) o algún número de fabricación (entre el 1 y el 100). Las Cajas de Suminsitros de Mann Co. también son comunes y se consideran de poco valor, incluso por debajo de las armas Únicas. Los objetos Clásicos se consideran más caros, principalmente por su antigüedad y su incapacidad de conseguirse en la actualidad. Los objetos Raros tienen más valor que los Únicos, ya que se han obtenido en cajas, pero su precio depende según qué arma sea y de qué caja se haya obtenido. Los objetos Genuinos suelen ser más valiosos que el resto, debido a su exclusividad por ser objetos promocionales y de edición limitada.

Los objetos Embrujados también se consideran de bastante valor, ya que solo se pueden obtener durante los eventos de Halloween. Las armas festivas también tienen limitación de tiempo, pero se consideran mucho más valiosas, ya que solo salen en cajas de los eventos de Navidad y su probabilidad de obtención es mucho menor, además de recibir gran popularidad durante estos eventos. Las armas festivas en Calidad Rara son todavía más valiosas ya que son más difíciles de conseguir. Las armas festivizadas, sin embargo, son distintas, ya que se les ha aplicado un Festivizador.

Algunos objetos, como la Llave de la Caja de Suministros de Mann Co. sufre un concepto llamado oferta y demanda, por lo que su valor es determinado como divisa.

Los objetos no utilizables en fabricación varían su valor en comparación con los utilizables, dependiendo de la dificultad de obtenerse. Generalmente los no utilizables son algo más valiosos que los que sí, ya que han conllevado una compra en la tienda, aunque realmente no son muy deseados, porque no se pueden combinar.

Los objetos con atributos añadidos por herramientas, como el color o Piezas Raras, pueden valorarse con una porción del valor del objeto utilizado para añadirle ese cambio.

Divisas

El metal se suele usar como divisa por los intercambiadores, cambiándose por objetos según su valor. El valor de un objeto específico se da en Metales Refinados (REF) (por ejemplo 1,33 REF, 3 REF, etc.). Para saber cuánto metal se pide por un objeto, los valores del metal son los siguientes: 1 Chatarra = 0,11 REF, 1 Metal Reciclado (o REC) = 0,33 REF, 1 Metal Refinado = 1 REF. Como una Chatarra se fabrica con 2 armas, un arma Única se puede considerar 0,05. Sin embargo, se puede ver a jugadores vendiendo armas por 1 Chatarra, para sacar beneficio de este comercio.

Para objetos más valiosos se usan «divisas» más valiosas. Las Llaves se usan como una moneda de cambio más valiosa que el REF, aunque se puede aceptar su equivalente en metales. Los Auriculares (llamados coloquialmente «Buds» por su nombre en inglés) se consideraban moneda de cambio de valor más alto, pero la famosa web Backpack.tf anunció el 31 de marzo de 2015 que este objeto no se consideraría más divisa en TF2.

Ocasionalmente, los intercambiadores pueden compensar la falta de Metal Refinado o Llaves con objetos cosméticos. Esto se considera un sobrepago. Es una forma de intercambio menos eficiente y no todo el mundo la acepta. Intercambiar cosméticos por cosméticos es más fácil entre amigos, o con usuarios que estén interesados en alguno sombrero en concreto.

Armas de Australium

Las armas de Australium solo se pueden conseguir en el modo de juego JcM Mann vs. Máquinas con un Tique de Turno de Servicio. Estas están bañadas en Australium. Solo se obtienen como armas de Calidad Rara con contador de muertes. La probabilidad de obtener un arma de estas en una partida Mann vs. Máquinas es del 3,5 %. Se consideran valiosas y caras, con un valor aproximado a los objetos Inusuales. Para ver las armas disponibles en Australium, véase su artículo.

La Llave Inglesa Dorada, el Saxxy y la Sartén Dorada son armas de Australium excepcionalmente raras, distintas a las armas de Australium. La Llave Inglesa Dorada y el Saxxy no son intercambiables. La Sartén Dorada es un objeto extraordinariamente raro recibido en Modo Mann, que solo se obtiene al competir en el Turno de Servicio de la Operación Dos Ciudades, Gear Grinder o Mecha Engine en Modo Mann.

Objetos Inusuales

Los objetos Inusuales se consideran los más valiosos y caros del juego para intercambiar. Por lo tanto, se considera que están a un nivel superior por sus elevados precios (generalmente dados en llaves). Además del aspecto visual los efectos inusuales de estos objetos tienen un 1 % de probabilidad de aparecer en cajas[1], por lo que son extremadamente difíciles de conseguir y tienen un valor extremadamente alto. Por otro lado, en el abanico de valores de los precios inusuales, cada uno de ellos puede variar ampliamente según su temática, apariencia, rareza o popularidad.

Consejos para intercambiar

Al intercambiar objetos Raros o Inusuales, comprobar los colores para evitar ser estafados. Las cuentas Free to Play no pueden dar objetos en intercambios, a menos que sean objetos que han recibido previamente.

Mantén los siguientes consejos en la cabeza al intercambiar:

  • To know how much metal is being asked for an item, keep in mind the specific values for each type of metal: 1 Scrap Metal is 0.11 refined (or simply scrap), 1 Reclaimed Metal (or rec) is 0.33 ref and 1 Refined Metal is 1 ref. Adding these values by increments will give you the exact value of metal that a trader is asking for, and lets you know which and how many items of metal are being asked of you.
  • Check the person's Steam profile to see if the person is on trade probation by Valve, or has a reputation for being a scammer. Also use SteamRep.
  • Use a trusted SteamRep middleman when doing cash trades.
  • Always review the items being traded before finishing the trade.
  • Trades should be conducted without any pressure; don't give into another player's pressure if they're urging you into a trade you do not want to be in.
  • Always have an ideal price for every item you trade to prevent unfair exchanges. You can find out using price guided websites.
  • If you feel that you are offering too much, ask a friend or another player. There are many "price guides" available online that estimate the value of items being traded (though these are often subjective).
  • Inventory items appear in the order in which they are arranged in your backpack. Be sure to preview items by hovering over them in the inventory or trading boxes to make sure you are adding the correct one(s).
  • Always respect the player you are trading with. Being polite, courteous and honest are very important aspects of trading, and are reflected on in real life trading too. Common courtesy is an important aspect.
  • Be aware of renamed items, as a scammer can rename a common item to appear as to be an item of a higher quality. For example, a Vintage Pyro's Beanie can be renamed to appear as an Unusual Pyro's Beanie. However, the cosmetic will retain its blue lettering. The chat box will show notifications about renamed items to help avoid confusion. Hovering over the item will also show it's original name before it was renamed.
  • Check if the items you receive in the trade are gifted or uncraftable, as they are generally valued lower than the non-gifted or craftable.
  • Make sure the items you are receiving are not duplicated (or duped for short); you can check this by viewing a player's backpack on backpack.tf, and by checking the item history of the item. Most items (especially those of an Unusual quality) hold a lower value if it is a duplicate of the original item so be wary.
  • If you are trading for a strange weapon, its current kill count will be reset to 0 once you receive the item.
  • While trading, verify the trader's last alias (This user has also played as) at his profile. Scamming players often use many different aliases, so they can't be recognized after the trade.
  • Some trading communities have adopted a verify system that can be very useful to the traders. If your trading spot has it, be aware of it.

Tipos de intercambio

Hay varios tipos de intercambio:

  • Scrap banking - an act where a player charges metal for weapons. Scrap bankers will usually exchange one scrap for two weapons initially, and then charge one scrap for one weapon after banking them, gaining them a small profit. This can also be performed the other way around, by trading two weapons to a scrap banker. This is referred to as reverse scrap banking.
  • Weapon banking - an act where a player gives another player a weapon for another weapon.
  • Cosmetic banking - an act where a player purchases a cosmetic for 1.33 refined (the general price for the majority of craftable cosmetics) or lower, then sells them for 1.33 refined or more, gaining the player a profit.
  • Key Banking - an act where a player exchanges their Mann Co. Supply Crate Keys for metal, mainly refined metal.
  • 1:1 trading - an act where a player exchanges a single item with another player for another item.
  • Item overpay - Overpaying for an item by .11 (1 scrap) to 1 key in items compared to the required amount for the other player's item(s)
  • Intercambio por juegos: se trata de intercambiar objetos por juegos de Steam y viceversa.
  • Intercambio por dinero: se trata de intercambiar objetos del juego por una compensación monetaria fuera de los servicios de intercambio de Steam. Este tipo de intercambios se debe hacer siempre con un intermediario de confianza, si se decide hacerlo; esta práctica es muy arriesgada y no está recomendada por Valve.
  • Intercambio puro: se trata de un intercambio en el que un usuario paga el valor exacto de un objeto en REF o Llaves.
  • Quicksell trading - when a person sells an item (often with the Unusual quality) for pure currency for a value that is less than the suggested price of their item.
  • Intercambio con bots: cuando un jugador entra en una web de intercambio puede ver que hay varias cuentas de Steam configuradas para realizar intercambios automáticos con usuarios reales. Para realizar intercambios en estas webs es necesario tener el inventario de Steam público, para poder recibir ofertas de intercambio de los bots. Es importante tener en cuenta que este sistema de bots de las webs de intercambios no es perfecto y puede haber usuarios que intenten suplantar la identidad de los bots, por lo que se debe verificar que se está intercambiando con el bots y no con una cuenta secundaria que trate de estafar.

Cosas a tener en cuenta:

  • Estafas: cuando otro usuario intenta robar, por ejemplo, prometiendo objetos o pagos que nunca da.
  • Suplantación: cuando otro usuario se hace pasar por otro jugador o envía enlaces para robar la contraseña del jugador. Hay que verificar siempre el nombre del enlace antes de hacer clic y comprobar que está la verificación de seguridad de nuestro navegador activada antes de introducir cualquier contraseña.
  • Sharking: cuando un usuario busca a un jugador poco experimentado para ofrecerle objetos de poco valor a cambio de sus objetos de valor.

Antes de intercambiar

  • Ascertain the value of the items you want to trade. Always try to figure out what your items are worth before trading them. [2].
  • Check if the person you are trading with is a legitimate trader and is who they say they are. [3]Check the person’s Steam profile yourself (do not click any links) and/or their SteamRep page. Their SteamRep profile will also display if the person has a Valve trade ban or Valve trade probation.[4] (For other ways to verify, see Reputation below.)
  • Do NOT click on any links to external websites as these sites could be malicious and/or phishing sites.[5]
  • If cash trades are involved, make sure that you secure a verified community middleman. [6]
  • Do NOT use TeamViewer or any other software that the other user tells you to install or use. [7]
  • Do NOT believe anyone who says that they are from Steam Support. Steam Support will NEVER ask you to trade items to them for any reason (Steam Admins can't have a regular Steam account). [8]


  • Los fondos de la Cartera de Steam no se pueden intercambiar. Cualquier intercambio que ofrezca esto, es una estafa.

Durante el intercambio

  • Hacer clic en el nombre de la otra persona para verificar si es un impostor o no. [9]
  • NO hacer clic en ningún enlace extraño que envíe otro usuario. [10]
  • Prestar atención al intercambio. Mirar el chat para ver que no se quiten objetos durante el intercambio. Make certain all agreed items are visible in the window before accepting the trade. If you cannot see an item, cancel the trade. [11]
  • Pay attention to the quality of the items being offered. Take your time to verify all items by hovering over them to ensure it is exactly the item you agreed to get. [12]
  • Be aware of renamed items, as a scammer can rename a common item to appear as a rare item. Double-check the quality, names, and descriptions of all items. Items which are renamed or have had their description changed will have quotation marks (“) around the name and description. The chat box will also show notifications about renamed items to help avoid confusion.
  • Inventory items appear in the order in which they are arranged in your backpack. [13] Be sure to preview items by hovering over them in the inventory or trading boxes to make sure you are adding the correct one(s).
  • Check if the items you receive in the trade are craftable. After the October 13, 2011 patch, weapons bought from the store are uncraftable, but can be traded. After the November 29, 2012 patch, cosmetic items bought from the store are craftable.
  • Common courtesy is important. Always treat other players with respect. [14]
  • Do NOT rush the trade. Give yourself plenty of time to review and verify all items before completing the trade- especially after the green box is checked but before the final trade button is pressed. [15]
  • You should always have a bit of control over the trade. You should never be pressured to sell your item at an discounted price. If you ever feel uncomfortable, do not hesitate to cancel the trade.
  • Never be afraid to check item history. If an item is duplicated, which will appear in the item history, it is not recommended to buy that item. This is because they are much less desirable on the market, and it will be harder to sell (unless you plan on keeping that specific item for yourself). An item history can be seen by going to Backpack.tf, a popular item trading website used for trading with bots and people. Simply click on your profile on backpack.tf, then click on ‘My Backpack’, then wait for your backpack to load. When your backpack finishes loading, you can select the item you wish to view ownership history, and a menu will appear. Click on ‘history’, and you will be redirected to another page. When the page finishes loading, you can see the user ID of the person which owns the item, the username of this user, and the date in which this item was last seen on the user. You can click on the username and click on ‘backpack’ to view this user’s inventory.
  • If you are trading on a website that utilises bots such as tradeit.gg, always check the date of account creation, and compare it with the one listed on the website.

Qué NO intercambiar

  • NO intercambiar por claves de CD de juegos que no se puedan poner en la ventana de intercambio. [16]
  • NO intercambiar por otras cuentas de Steam. La compra, venta, intercambio o compartir cuentas de Steam viola el acuerdo de suscripción a Steam. [17]
  • NO intercambiar por elementos de otras plataformas, como oro en Runescape, cuentas de Minecraft, etc.[18]

Reputación

La reputación se suele usar en la comunidad de intercambios para justificar los intercambios por dinero real. Tarjetas rojas:

  • Cuenta nueva (si una cuenta es relativamente nueva, puede significar una cuenta alternativa)
  • Pocas horas de TF2 (si un usuario solo tiene 100 horas de TF2, pero quiere intercambiar un objeto muy valioso, puede ser una situación de potencial estafa)
  • Pocos juegos en la biblioteca o solo juegos Free to Play. La gente sin juegos de pago en su cuenta suele tener cuentas alternativas, por si sufren un bloqueo no perder su cuenta principal.

Estafas

Scammers are users that attempt to steal other people's items by deceptive means. They do this in three different ways:

  • Convincing the victim to trade them items while receiving nothing in return
  • Misleading the victim on how valuable certain items are, and knowingly offering an unfair trade (this is called sharking)
  • Convincing the victim to click on a corrupted link, which allows the scammer to hijack the victim's account and/or trade offers sent to other people.

Thus, as long as you never give items to strangers for free, never click on suspicious links, and always know the true value of both your items and theirs, you have nothing to fear from scammers.

There are many different scamming strategies. All known methods are listed down below:

Estafa del cambio rápido

This method is extremely ineffective now with the trade hold and additional verification. Once both parties have agreed upon a fair trade and they are happy, the scammer instead offers a similar item of less value, and hopes that the victim won't notice the difference. Fortunately, this method is much harder to pull off now because extra verification is needed before the trade can be completed giving the victim an extra chance to notice.

Estafa del bot impostor

A screenshot of a fake Opskins bot scam

This is a type of impersonation scam. Fake bots are accounts that send you offers for items in exchange for nothing, usually to 'deposit' them into a site, which after being deposited, cannot be withdrawn. The Scam usually goes like this:

  • A Scammer adds a user to their friend list
  • they lead the user to a well-known trading site (e.g., Opskins, Marketplace.tf, etc.) (or they can lead you to a fake trading site made just for scamming)
  • they get the user to list their item but not deposit it
  • a fake bot sends the user an offer for your item for nothing in return
  • the scammer tries to convince the user to accept the trade
  • once the user accepts, the scammer blocks the user and the deposited items cannot be withdrawn.

Estafa del intermediario

This is another type of impersonation scam. Some traders use middlemen to be a mediator when trading highly valuable items to make sure the items go to the right people and prevent most types of scams. However, middlemen can be impersonated and take the valuable items without giving it to the respective users. A lot of the time the fake middleman will be working with/be an alt account of a scammer to take your items. It will usually go down like this:

  • You have a valuable item that you wish to trade.
  • You meet with someone who is willing to trade and they insist on getting a middleman.
  • The middleman and the person you are trading with are friends or the middleman is an alt of the scammer.
  • The middleman takes all the items and gives it to the scammer.

or it can go down like this:

  • You are trading valuable items and you want to get a middleman involved.
  • The other user agrees and you trade your items to the middleman.
  • The middleman takes the items and leaves.
  • The middleman will most likely block you.

Estafa del enlace falso

Phishing links are links to websites usually impersonating Steam or other well-known websites and require you to sign in to steal your account credentials, and hijack your account. In some occasions simply accessing the website may download malware and do harm to your computer and potentially steal your personal information.

Examining and not clicking on suspicious links will prevent you from getting affected by this type of scam.

Estafa del amigo de confianza

This is another type of impersonation scam. The scammer will ask you to trade your items to a trusted friend of yours who the scammer will impersonate to decieve you to trade the items to the fake account. It usually goes like this:

  • The scammer adds the victim.
  • The scammer and the victim agree on a deal for a trade.
  • The scammer says to make sure the promised items are 'legit' that the user has to temporarily trade it to a friend they trust, then they can complete the trade.
  • The scammer's alt/friend impersonates the friend you said you would lend your promised items too.
  • You give your promised items to the scammer's alt/friend not realizing its not your real friend.
  • The scammer and the fake account block you and the items are scammed off of you.

Estafa del youtuber falso

This is another type of impersonation scam. An account impersonating a popular YouTuber/streamer will add you, and tell you that they need your items for a showcase video. Once you have given your items to them, they block you. Checking the YouTuber/streamer's actual Steam profile can help you identify if it's a scammer, as the "Add Friend" button should change to "Send Message" if you are already their friend. Also checking the scammer's inventory to see if it is private can help.

Estafa de la caja trucada

In this particular scam, a scammer adds a user to their friend list, they tell the user that their crates in their inventory are hacked and that they will 100% unbox a Unusual when opened. The user pays the scammer for the crates unboxes them and gets nothing (although there is the normal small chance they could get an expensive item) and realizes that the scammer was lying when he said the crates were hacked and that they were just normal crates.

Sharking

Sharking is a type of scam in which the scammer tells the victim that the scammer's item is worth far more than it actually is, or that the victim's item is worth far less than it actually is. This is largely preventable through referencing websites like backpack.tf, or by checking the Steam Community Market prices if the items are marketable, as these give community-decided values of the items in question.

Estafa del falso empleado de Valve

This is another type of impersonation scam. The scammer will impersonate a Valve employee (e.g. Robin Walker, Drunken F00l), and will proceed to ask you to trade your items to them for various reasons. Note that Valve employees will never contact you personally for your items, even if they are glitched.

Festivo vs. Festivizado

Esta estafa es más reciente que las anteriores, en la Navidad 2017 Valve actualizó los Festivizadores para poder festivizar más armas (incluyendo las básicas). Los estafadores envían una oferta de intercambio diciendo que su arma es un arma Festiva original o Festiva de Calidad Rara, dándoles mucho valor. Cabe destacar que las armas Festivas originales tienen un icono de mochila distinto al de las armas festivizadas.

Estafa de la ruleta de objetos

This scam involves a TF2 gambling website that the scammer supposedly runs. Some of these websites fake the entire process. [19] Typically, a scammer adds a TF2 player over steam to their friends list. If the TF2 player accepts, the scammer asks the player to advertise their item roulette website and promises to "fix" (guarantee the TF2 player to win a round) some roulette rounds in exchange for their help. Alternatively, a scammer may "fix" a round so that a select roulette player (which sometimes may be a fake player/bot) of the would-be victim's choosing is guaranteed to win as proof to the would-be victim that the scammer is in fact capable of "fixing" rounds. Items can be scammed from a would-be victim in three ways:

  • Sometimes a "fee" is required to play the roulette game in the first place.
  • By entering the game, a would-be victim's items are simply pocketed by the scammers involved and are never actually given to a "winner" (sometimes fake players or bots pretend to be a would-be winner).
  • Even if the roulette round is legitimate, rounds can be "fixed" and unfairly manipulated to guarantee a winner (which is often done to lure in new would-be victims).

In addition, this scam can easily become widespread due to scammers requiring victims to advertise these roulette or gambling sites in order to attract new would-be victims.

Estafa de Abstractism/otro juego

A screenshot of a fake item produced in Abstractism

This is a newer scam, Abstractism was a game that used Team Fortress 2 backpack icons for inventory items until it was removed from the Steam Store on 7/30/18 "for shipping unauthorized code, trolling with content, and scamming customers with deceptive in-game items"[20]. Scammers will "fake" that they have really expensive items (Australiums, Unusuals), sometimes there is no way to easily tell the fake items apart from the real items [21], however some fake items don't have the Team Fortress 2 logo next to it, use this to help distinguish fake items from another game. Valve has taken precautions in an effort to ensure that such scams do not reoccur in the future by adding warnings in trade windows for items which were recently added to the Steam store and for trading with items which a trading participant has never played the associated game for. These warnings can also be used to distinguish fake items from real ones.

Reclutando usuarios para nuestro equipo de timadores

In this scam the scammer will ask you to join his TF2/other game team to play a competitive match, usually with a big prize pool, but it's all fake and he just wants to trick you to go to a sketchy website that can do harm to your steam account or pc. It usually goes like this

  • Scammer adds you and asks you to join his team
  • He asks you about your rank
  • If you say no he will ask you to at least vote on his team on a sketchy website, if you say yes he will give you a link to a sketchy website and will ask you to sign in with your steam account
  • If you sign up your account will get stolen

Estafa de «Te he denunciado sin querer»

In this scam the scammer, either through a compromised account or a random add will tell the victim they "accidentally" reported them for duped items/impersonating/scamming They will have an alt posing as a steam admin to "help you". These scammers will say the admin "sent a code" to your email which is actually a password reset code.

  • Real steam admins will NEVER, NEVER, talk to you through steam chat or add you
  • Scammers often talk in broken English
  • The "admin" will use the /quote or /code command to look more "official"

Estafa de «comprobar» el objeto

In this scam, the scammer will give you a too good to be true trade offer. Such as australiums for taunts. The scammer will say something to the effect of "these items might be bugged lets add this steam admin and trade them to him to prove they're real" Upon trading your items to the "steam admin" you will never see them again

  • Again, Steam admins will NEVER talk to you through steam chat
  • Nobody can magically know if your items are "bugged"

Estafa de hechizos falsos

An image showing the difference between a real spelled item and a fake one, from left to right respectively. Notice the gray text of the fake spell.

This scam is more prominent on the Steam Community Market, where direct interaction between the two parties is not needed. The scammer advertises having a spelled item, or lists it on the Steam Community Market for a higher price, when all they have done is changed the description with a Description Tag to make it appear as a spelled item.

  • There will usually be quotation marks around the "spell" where they have changed the description
  • The fake spell's text is a light gray color instead of the light blue text color that spells have on the Steam Community Market, and in trades

Cómo reconocer a un estafador

Hay métodos para reconocer si te ha añadido un estafador.

  • Puede tener comentarios indicando que es un estafador en su perfil.
  • Puede estar marcado como estafador en SteamRep.com o bloqueado en backpack.tf.
  • Te añade sin saber quién es.
  • Su inventario es privado.
    • Si se dedica a intercambiar querrá mostrar sus objetos al resto de usuarios.
  • Si su inventario no es privado, está completamente vacío.
  • Si son impostores, pueden dar el enlace al inventario del usuario al que suplantan.
  • Puede tener frases como «No me añadas» («Don't add me»), cuando son ellos los primeros que te envían la solicitud.
  • Dice ser empleado de Steam o Valve.
    • Los empleados de Valve NUNCA contactarán con usuarios sobre su asuntos de su inventario por el chat de Steam.
  • Te envía un enlace a una web desconocida o sospechosa.

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